( Orignally taken from fortbayouranch forum and sounds like a good deal )
Alot of us here in SC and GA are using the Bayer Tree and Shrub to keep the fleas off our dogs. I have found it hard to find the Bayer Tree and Shrub around here anymore so I have switched brands.
Walmart and Home Depot and Lowes carries the Bayer but mine has the Bayer Feed and Protect which has nitrogen..wouldnt recommend this because the nitrogen will burn the skin.
Ortho Tree and Shrub Insect Control 32 oz --Home Depot 19.00
Martin's Dominion Tree and Shrub Insect Control 32oz TSC 18.50
Both have the same formula containing 1.47 percent Imidacloprid just like the Bayer Tree and Shrub Insect Control.
Recommended dosage-Been using the Bayer tree & shrub, 1.47% imidicloprid product here since early spring. No fleas and no problems. It is a different chemical than Frontline, but the same as the vet's Advantage product. It is just a way lower % of the chemical, as Advantage is 9.Something%. But dosing at 1ml (or 1 cc from a vaccine syringe) per about 20 lb body weight, has worked just fine for me and many I know. So with it being a much lower %, margin of safety should be even better than the Advantage product, but more is not necessary from my experience. Put it on my 10 wk old Doxie pup and 11 wk old Jack Russell pup just the other day, so they didn't break any treatment efforts with fleas making their way in to my yard! Just make sure you get the concentrate bottle, with only active ingredient is 1.47% imidicloprid. There are other formulas, like that hook to the end of the hose, that have added active ingredients.
Here's info from PetMeds
Active Ingredient(s): Imidacloprid (9.1%)
What is this product used for: Advantage is a once a month topical Flea treatment for cats and kittens over 8 weeks or older and dogs and puppies 7 weeks or older. This product kills 98-100% of the fleas on cats and dogs within 12 hours.
Availability: Advantage, a once a month topical Flea treatment, is a non-prescription (OTC) product.
How this product should be used: Advantage is available in 0.4 ml applicators for cats 1-9 lbs (orange) and 0.8 ml applicators for cats 10 lbs and over (purple). Advantage is available in 0.4 ml applicators for dogs 1-10 lbs (green), 1.0 ml applicators for dogs 11-20 lbs (teal), 2.5 ml applicators for dogs 21-55 lbs (red) and 4.0 ml applicators for dogs 55 lbs and over (blue). To apply, place the applicator tip through the animal's hair to the skin level. On cats, apply to skin on neck at the base of the skull. For dogs up to 20 lbs, apply to skin on back between the shoulder blades. For dogs 21 lbs or over apply the contents of one tube to 3 or 4 spots along the skin on back from the shoulder to the tail. Do not get this product in the pet's eyes or mouth.
What are the side effects: Individual sensitivities, while rare, may occur after using any pesticide product for pets. If signs persist, or become more severe, consult a veterinarian immediately.
What special precautions are there: Advantage is for external use on dogs 7 weeks or older and cats 8 weeks or older. Consult a veterinarian before using on medicated animals, animals using this product with other pesticides, and debilitated, aged, pregnant or nursing animals. This product causes eye irritation in humans and is harmful if swallowed. Avoid contact with skin. Call poison control center if swallowed. If on skin, wash with plenty of soap and water. If in eyes, flush with plenty of water.
Again, the Bayer T/S is only 1.47% compared to this 9%...but it's working at my house, and dosed at that same amounts per weight, should be good starting point.
I myself only use about 1-2 ml between the shoulders, start out weekly then slack off to once a month. A bottle should last you a while at those doses. Anymore than these doses and the dogs will be coated with it and can lick it off. I try and keep it between the shoulders and rub it in the fur tio keep them from licking at it.. You can also use it in a sprayer and spray around the dogs house and inside it to kill the fleas as well... I had a problem with pups getting eat up with fleas and found that washing them in Dawn dish washing soap to kill what fleas they had on them. I then mix 20 ml of Tree and Shrub in a 16 oz spray bottle and spray the pups down with it. Its diluted enough not to harm any pups so far and keeps the fleas from returning.
********* Guys I am not a vet and can not guarantee you will not have any problems with your dogs. I have been using this for awhile now and have never had a health issue with my pups or dogs using it. *****
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