BigGameHoundsmen.com

[Buddyw]

Folks, I think it's time to try and reflect a little bit about the site and how it's going.

We've always had a Split 50/50 about too more moderation, and Almost effectively NO Moderation I've tended to go with the route of easiest which was little to no moderation.

Don't expect a HUGE change, this isn't it, but I do want to see some of the good Topics and discussions come back to the site.

I' don't have the time to dedicate to watching and keeping up with all of the topics and sections as well as I should. I Tend to scan and look for topics that are interest to me and that I can hopefully enjoy.

Anyways I've noticed a couple topics that have been good lately, and they have had some Good points and good Conversations. I was happy to see they didn't get thrown in the trash and held to the topic.

My IDEA is to get a person or two per section to help Guide and establish a Moderator Roll. I"m not looking for Hot Heads with a power trip, I want folks that are right in the middle with no axe to grind.

But rather Referee's that can see both sides and try and figure out how to Tone down the Criticism, and encourage the Discussion.

I think I would need or want a Guy/Gal established for

Lion
Bear
Bobcat

They would need to be accepted by the users as well. No hard feelings but I want someone who can represent us well.

I would still enlist the help of Hidden Crew of Moderators that I have working now, Those guys are in the background and they do a great job enforcing the rules and keeping things clean but often they need more direction.

There are plenty of folks that don't like the site or me for that matter, I'm not looking for a 180 change, I just think it's time to try to bring back some of the good deep discussions that I know many of us are missing.

What say you?

Buddy

[M Evertsen]

I took a break from visiting this site for a while because I got tired of the topics getting off subject after about the 5th post, the constant name calling, bitching, and when I click on the "view new posts" tab, I see about half the page filled with dogs for sale. I have not posted for some time, but still browse in once in a while, just not into it like I used to be. It seems to me the quality of content has not been what it used to be.

I want to talk about hunting, and share my experiences without someone criticizing me for what I did or did not do. That is the quality that is missing IMO, not sure how to change that.

Marcial

[FullCryHounds]

I feel very similar to Marcial. I don't post nearly as much as I used to because of all the childish replies and bickering. On another houndsmen site, everyone is required to post thier name. There is ZERO of the nonsense that is in this site and virtually every other forum site. That is for the simple reason that most guys hide behind thier handle. To me, this is a very easy fix. Put your name in your profile or in your signiture. Until that happens, nothing will ever change.

[super white hunter]

I feel very similar to Marcial. I don't post nearly as much as I used to because of all the childish replies and bickering. On another houndsmen site, everyone is required to post thier name. There is ZERO of the nonsense that is in this site and virtually every other forum site. That is for the simple reason that most guys hide behind thier handle. To me, this is a very easy fix. Put your name in your profile or in your signiture. Until that happens, nothing will ever change.

I understand how this would help stop a lot of nonsence but would some people be worried about personal security, I know most houndsmen are kind of hermits and don't like to bloat, at least the real ones are, and those are the kind of people we want on here that have the real life experience and knowledge to share with everybody

[outlaw13]

I agree with Dean, partly for the reasons he stated but also for some other reasons. I have nothing to hide and i believe i am a man of my word. I will stand behind my name.

[Buddyw]

I'm not going to require a name. It's impossible for me to enforce and frankly someone would just enter a fake one if they want to hide.

The watering hole is a small closed secret Website of guys that already know each other. I think He only wants around 120 members and You basically have to be Invited into the secret club to join. Often done through the PM system of this website.

I'm not interested in Making this website that restrictive so that it's a secret and unless you are in the know and the special hand shake you aren't allowed.

What I'm looking for is to tone down some of the bickering and arguments so that people can discuss and we can appreciate some of the better hounds men that keep quiet.

The Last post by Mike Leonard with Al Baldwin is a good example of some of the topics that I've personally been missing, I think there are quiet a few folks sitting in the wings that would like to discuss but don't want to deal with the BS that would likely follow.

I just want to try and eliminate the BS, and make sure that it's constructive to the topic at hand.

Buddy

[Buddyw]

Dean,
After thinking about it, Actually I'm looking for people to lead their own sections. So technically I wouldn't care if the leader decided that was the rule for his area and the people didn't overturn it.

So I suppose according to the plan in my head, Let's say if you were the Guy to head up the Lion section for example, and of coarse I would want to make sure the people in the lion section approved that you were a good candidate to do it and they trusted you. Then you could make the rule that you want folks to Post their name.

I would probably ask you to tone that rule down to a firm request, and would ask that maybe you only enforce it to people who are actually causing problems and hiding.

But I would consider any rule that the Section leaders or moderators would want if you were the leader of that area.

Does that make sense?

Buddy

[outlaw13]

I know it has been mentioned before but the idea died. Why not make a section opposite of the cage, with good moderation, prefered name when posting and no bs pissing matches or you get booted out of the section for a while and can only be let in after a certain period of time. I bet the Clay's would have stayed to post in a section like that.

[Buddyw]

Feel Free to PM me your thoughts or suggestions for Someone that you wouldn't mind running the rules for the section you enjoy the most.

Please remember that If I get a hundred responses through PM's I may start to be short with words, so Please don't take offense if I come across Short, it's not Personal..


Buddy.

[Buddyw]

It seams that the Names are a hot topic on both sides and I understand both sides, I"m going to side with the Privacy side of the argument.

I'm not going to require names, There are some really good reasons to keep your name off the web. Job interviews, You current job, or future jobs Plenty of companies that we work for and with have people who may not agree with our views and we may not want to advertise what we do in our private lives.

Honestly It bothers me sometimes having so much information on the web and I worry about someone messing with my dogs, or coming around while I'm out hunting. That's why I'm careful as to not post when I'm leaving to camp or anything... Privacy is not always a bad thing.

There are times that privacy is needed and it's not always because people want to start crap and hide behind a name.

So I'm not going to Require a Name here, But what I can do is make sure that people must Earn the privileged of keeping their privacy. If you don't have your name on the signature than you shouldn't be causing trouble and you should be respectful... Etc. etc.

Buddy

[Roy Auwen]

So long bgh, getting worse more than better.

[not color blind]

Buddy, there is a lot of bickering on here, that being said (IMO) people should still get called out for spewing over the top BS.

[Buddyw]

Not color Blind,

I don't think this will stop that,(I could be wrong) It's probably just a matter of How BS is called out, I don't think actual Debate will be limited, at least I hope not.

But I think some areas folks will need to have a little more tact and debate the issue and not end up with personal attacks that are not related to the issue.

The problem as I see it, is some folks can't stick and debate the issue so it turns into a Personal fight and get's off topic and then the topic is ruined, Sometimes some really good topics. In my Opinion that s what I would like to see stopped.

Folks should still be allowed to disagree and Call BS. Folks Just shouldn't do it as a personal attack.

Buddy

[sourdough]

There is a lot of BS on here. I hear what Dean is saying and understand his stand point. I have dealt with many people throughout my life and should at my age not be surprised by human nature. I don’t feel that posting your name in the signature line will stop the BS. Dennis was a perfect example of how people can act on here regardless of what name is in their signature line. Some great topics have been destroyed by ignorance. How can you moderate ignorance? I believe that for those that can’t maintain control of themselves they should be banned from this site. Those that post things that don’t hold up to good moral and above board hunting ethics should also be banned. I don’t want those folks representing my views or stand point. I don’t run your business, but feel that those who are selling hounds on here don’t get a free pass If they don’t contribute to the site they can buy an add here or one from the hound hunting magazines that still exist. Just my thoughts.

sourdough

[FullCryHounds]

I talked to Buddy the other day and he expressed his ideas and concerns. I also understand why some guys don't want to post their name. I certainly don't think that would be a cure all for everyone on this site. However, there are some other ideas that some guys have come up with that might help. I hope everyone continues to post thier ideas.

Here's a couple that I think might help. On another hunting website, the guy that starts a thread can dictate right away if he wants that topic to be debate free. So if someone starts to post something negative, that post gets pulled before it ever gets started. Don't know how or how many guys are being used to moderate that, it could be a bit much.
Another idea might be to let the members moderate the site themselves. On each post, there could be a button that could be clicked by anyone on the site if they feel the post is inapropriate. If the post received say 3 or 5 clicks, then the post is automatically removed. If the poster gets 3 of those in 6 months or so, he's banned.
Now this would probably be a programming nightmare for Buddy but who's looking out for him anyway!