I've always heard the 30 carbine is a military round made to wound soldiers, not kill them. It takes up a couple more soldiers to get them off the battlefield. That said, a friend of mine used a 30 carbine for deer hunting years ago and I NEVER saw him kill a deer with 1 shot.

That's what it's all about Mike. thanks!!

Way to go Al, glad you can keep enjoying your passion..

OH BOY, now I gotta find that damn rulebook!

thats a dandy!!

Beautiful pics...Might want to give Mark a few pointers on picture taking...

Try to set your gps collar frequency as far away from your telemetry frequency as you can. Possible the collars that work are on the far end of the frequency spectrum from the telemetry collars. Just a thought.....

Not cutting down any old timers but isn't it possible that the game animals have evolved? Just an example, I grew up making deer drives, back in the day the first hoot by the drivers and the deer were out to the posters. Today you have to almost step on a deer to get it to move and many let you walk...

Take a pic of a lion 1000 yds away but can't get a pic of a cat in a tree unless it's sideways..

It's 60 here and it's depressing, should be in the 30's. We need to freeze the woods up. With record rainfall this summer, you can get wet feet walking on top of a ridge, wet up to the knees anywhere else. Snow is a bad thing for guys that like to make up a story on what the dogs did, I walk in and ...

Mark, an opinion from a lowly bear and coyote hunter that runs cats is, (this is in snow) I've seen quite a few times the dogs seem to have a couple minute lose to go right to jumped. I've walked out countless tracks to beds, either to start a dog or to find out what the dogs did just for piece of m...

406, must not be, Mark has a mountain side planted with that special weed on national forest....go for it.

I'll have a drink to that Al....

Sure I'll come out Mark, heard you need some coyotes run out of the area....

Mark, do they sell unlimited permits for a parcel of land or is it a limited number per parcel?