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Samonella?

Postby Sungmahetu » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:49 pm

I have a sick hound, yellowish diarrhea, not eating much or drinking much. Lethargic as can be and loosing weight quickly. My other two dogs show now signs of being sick.

At first I thought it was Parvo but, none of the other dogs are sick and he's almost 2. They all kennell together. Could this be Salmonella and how would you gentlemen treat him. Vets in my area are very expensive. Was hoping I could fix him up at home if possible.

He is eating some and drinking some just not much. Laying around all the time, seen him eat grass a bit. I wormed all of them with Quest Plus approximately 4 days ago. Doubt this has anything to do with it. I saw him chewing on an old nasty deer hide he found but, that is the only thing out of the ordinary that I have seen.

Any help is much appreciated.
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Re: Samonella?

Postby Grzyadms4x4 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:20 pm

Hi Sungmahetu, from what I understand it is pretty hard for dogs to contract salmonella and other human digestive parasites as the dogs digestive tract is shorter and things move a little faster but it can happen. Diahrea after worming isn't unheard of and from what i've read the yellowish is from mucus in the intestines that help move things along. Maybe your dog had a high worm count? that his guts are trying to remove after their death from the wormer.

Here is the dosage for anti-diahreal medicine i found for you on the web.

Kaopectate -
Give dog 0.5-1.0 ml/pound every 4 hours or loperamide (0.2mg/ml Imodium, Equate WalMart) at 1ml per 4 pounds two or three times a day.

Immodium
For a dog up to 30 pounds, one regular strength Immodium every 12 hours. For over 30 pounds, a full tablet regular strength.

Pepto Bismol
Try no more than 1 tablespoon of Pepto Bismol for dog diarrhea. Specifically .5 to 1.5 ml per pound orally every 12 hours

Just remember diahrea is a natural reaction of an animal's guts trying to remove whatever is bugging it as quickly as possible and these medicines may slow down the healing of the animal as they slow down the digestive tract just as in humans.

Try feeding the dog cooked rice and ground beef in small amounts. Most dogs won't pass on that kind of a meal and it help put weight back on pretty quick. If it doesn't get better you might have to get some help just in case there is something else causing it.

Good luck, let us know how it works out.
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Re: Samonella?

Postby Sungmahetu » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:25 pm

Grzyadms4x4,

Thank you much for the education and the information. It's very much appreciated. I'm hoping you hit the nail on the head.
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Re: Samonella?

Postby al baldwin » Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:04 pm

Your dog could have salmon poison, does not have to be exposed to salmon to contact it. Check his temp.if between 103 and 105 I would try giving two 500 mg tetracycline capsule, twice on day one, then give 500 mg morning and evening the next six days. I have cured numerous dog using this and never lost one. Important to get on it asap. If the tetracycline is going to work you should notice a drop in temp. by the second day,and gradually return to about 101.Or take to a vet, they will put on a tetracycline drip and kill the poison over night. I would not risk delaying the treatment if you value your dog. Also avoid giving any dairy products while treating. Of course always wise to consult a good vet, even vets. can have trouble getting the correct ailment on the first try but get the dog help asap Another common ailment in dogs is infection of the urinary tract, once a very good vet treated my dog for salmon when he had a urinary infection, dang near lost him..Al
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Re: Samonella?

Postby Sungmahetu » Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:37 pm

I think you nailed it on the head Al. Thank you very much. Started him on antibiotics and he is coming around. Thank goodness! I very much appreciate the help... Dennis
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Re: Samonella?

Postby Sungmahetu » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:15 pm

Does anyone know where I can buy tetracycline over the counter?
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Re: Samonella?

Postby LarryBeggs » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:57 am

Wilco or most feed stores will have it under the name Terramycin (oxytetracycline HCI) 250mg tablets. The pills are kind of big they are made for cattle but will work .I have used them for Salmon Poison before. Also can get from a fish store but hard to find in pill form nowadays usually powder. All is right you need to treat quickly. Living in PNW should keep on hand so can use as soon as a dog quits eating. As All said temp should drop in couple of days and dog should start eating again if not need to get to a vet. Wrong type of antibiotics for wrong ailment will not work. Or if to far advanced vet will need to add fluids through IV. Good luck, Larry
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Re: Samonella?

Postby Emily » Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:05 am

Sounds serious, whatever it is. Try to get him to a vet.

However, I had a hound with similar symptoms that nearly died from an intestinal blockage. We took him to Cornell veterinary hospital and they didn't find the cause--it didn't show up on x-rays. The hound had no fever, but he had bad diarrhea that became bloody diarrhea over the course of two months. He also vomited a lot, and eventually began vomiting up blood. We gave him pepto bismol in liquid form after each vomiting incident. It got so he actually liked the stuff, but it was very messy to administer! The vet school also put him on some easily digested special diet--very expensive, but it was the only thing he could keep down. After about a month on that, one day he vomited up a nearly whole sponge ball that must have been in there for almost 6 months. He recovered quickly after that.

If his stools remain loose, you may want to put him on a bland diet--mostly rice, which will firm up his stools, and some plain poached chicken or other meat, the less grease the better.

On the other hand, if he swallowed a big hunk of deer hide and it is blocking his digestive tract, vets sometimes recommend feeding a slice of bread soaked in vegetable oil to lubricate its passage through the system. When I was a kid, we had a bloodhound that ate my sister's jacks set and the small rubber ball that went with it. Surprisingly, all the jacks and the ball went right through Hector's system with the help of a couple slices of oil soaked bread. I suspect that deer hide would eventually disintegrate in there, though after enough exposure to digestive juices.
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