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Need opinion on what to do for new pup

Postby WestonAZ » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:54 am

So a guy that I know (not well) has a black and tan and the dog was pregnant, he said it was sire'd by another B&T needless to say they're not registered. I'm looking into starting hound hunting and have always liked B&T's so I told him to hold one for me, well the puppies came and something I wasn't expecting happened, theres two white dogs in the litter. Obviously I am less than ecstatic about this because I was under the impression they were pure bred. I know his dog does well on cats, I'm not real sure about the sire. I have had a hard time finding a suitable pup down here in AZ I'm not set on a B&T but want a colder nosed dog so I've been looking at B&T's and blue ticks, I'm unsure weather to pick up one of the black dogs from him or to wait and find another breeder. Whats everyones opinions?

EDIT upon talking to him a little more he's not sure what hound got ahold of her so I'm not really sure what to think, it looks like some walker mixed in. my gut tells me to back out and try to find a different dog.

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Re: Need opinion on what to do for new pup

Postby pistol » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:15 am

I had a litter of black and tans last fall and I had the same issue. I took her to an all black and tan kennel to get bred. When she had her litter 1 came out the same color yours did. I did some research and this hsppens. There throwbacks from a dog way back in the day. B/t came from a couple different crosses of dogs. It sounded like its more out of dogs from the southern bloodlines and these dogs colors come up every now and then.
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Re: Need opinion on what to do for new pup

Postby 1bludawg » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:48 pm

If both parents were good dogs I'd say take a pup BUT since he's not sure who the sire is i would say don't do it.NEVER buy a pup unless BOTH parents can tree the game you want to hunt.
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Re: Need opinion on what to do for new pup

Postby WestonAZ » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:52 pm

1bludawg wrote:If both parents were good dogs I'd say take a pup BUT since he's not sure who the sire is i would say don't do it.NEVER buy a pup unless BOTH parents can tree the game you want to hunt.



Thats kind of what I was thinking, I just wanted to hear it from someone with more expierence before I told him to go kick rocks.
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Re: Need opinion on what to do for new pup

Postby Grzyadms4x4 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:23 pm

Weston, from my limited experience, my dark colored dogs overheat faster than my walkers. You might want to take that into consideration, this is AZ afterall. There are some great breeders in AZ. Since you are going to be laid up for a while per your other topic, my advice would be to sit back, heal and wait for someone from AZ, UT or NM to post with some pups from proven dry ground blood lines. If I could start over, that's what I would do. Good luck.
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Re: Need opinion on what to do for new pup

Postby TomJr » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:06 am

Well if your gut is telling you to back out that's likely what you should do... sounds like he does not know the sire. That's a red flag... maybe its not even hound ;) That's not always a bad thing but if its not what you want better to pass. My top lion catcher is Lab/walker... looks like a walker but hunts more like a cur, silent until jumped.

I see a few litters in the classified section that if I needed a pup I would go for. Don't get too hung up on pure breed but instead go for dogs out of good hunting stock.
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Re: Need opinion on what to do for new pup

Postby WestonAZ » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:56 am

TomJr wrote:Well if your gut is telling you to back out that's likely what you should do... sounds like he does not know the sire. That's a red flag... maybe its not even hound ;) That's not always a bad thing but if its not what you want better to pass. My top lion catcher is Lab/walker... looks like a walker but hunts more like a cur, silent until jumped.

I see a few litters in the classified section that if I needed a pup I would go for. Don't get too hung up on pure breed but instead go for dogs out of good hunting stock.



I really appreciate the info you PMed me for some reason the classifieds don't work for me (perhaps a post count issue) as of yet but I am real thankful there are people that are willing to help, its been a lot of searching with little success and I'm certainly not opposed to traveling for a good pup!

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