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Re: Hound guy turned cur

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:15 pm
by dwalton
Bearsnva: All of my dogs come from bear stock, the curs and the running dogs. So whats the difference? I have said and believe that most bear dogs will not make bobcat dogs. So could it be the hunter selecting the traits that make better bobcat dogs or the training only letting them run bobcats? Each to their own. Dewey

Re: Hound guy turned cur

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:18 pm
by david
bearsnva wrote:David and dwalton,
Never figured I would be posting to two "cat hunters" about several mutual acquaintances. Wayne Hensley raises some good dogs that will make a bear climb and Mr. Cecil Boggs is a legendary hound man from way back. Both are members of the Virginia Bear Hunters Association and are very enjoyable to talk hunting with and are good men.


I sure agree with you these are good men and I could talk with either for a long time and not realize it. I still remember "lizard ridge road" that Wayne lived on when I was there probably twelve years ago or more. I was with Cecil at his place last spring. What an amazing visit that was for me.

I remember a story Wayne told me, a receptionist was interested in going bear hunting with him and asked if they could outrun a bear if it came after them. He told her "I don't need to outrun the bear, I only need to outrun you!" Lol

I brought back a couple of his dogs and also a dog from Rex Bowers there in Davey County North Carolina. What a national treasure of history and information Rex is.
It is a wonderful part of the country. You are blessed to live there.

The Hensley female in Deweys yard looked so identical to the female I had from Wayne that when I saw her I had this puzzled feeling like "I know you really well. How come you act like you don't know me?" :)

Re: Hound guy turned cur

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:03 am
by GCLeps
Wayne Hensley and Rex Bowers are both fine men I have known both for 18 yrs. I've hunted with Wayne a few times and Rex also. Rex is a mentor of mine and as David said a ton of knowledge there. Some of these fellows dogs are in my dogs and they work well on bear ,cat and coon. But no doubt there is some hound influence even in lines that have no jug blood.

Re: Hound guy turned cur

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:17 am
by SASS
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Re: Hound guy turned cur

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:31 pm
by dirtdodge
I think for the curs it's more about training. I've had curs most my life. If you train them by cutting a track then walking them on it enough to get them knowing that's what to chase just about any cur breed would work. Like all breeds it's repetition and right spot at the right time. Curs have a colder nose than most give credit to, most squirrel and coon hunter's just think they wind everything. Squirrel dogs shouldn't have to cold trail. They're not trained to cold trail. I seen an older cur cold trail a coon for 3/4-1 mile after sun up.

I've tried my squirrel dogs on cats before. Cut a cat track walk em on it till they started running it... then treed! I was a happy hunter until i walked into the swamp and there sits a grey squirrel in a pine. Dog barking every breath... I don't think I would finish them out on squirrel and think they'll make a cat dog. Lol They're like anything else, good ones, bad ones and a few great ones. But if you put a mt. cur on cat after cat and only cats, I bet you would make a cat dog.

I've also heard that the Stephens Curs are cat happy to start with but never had one.

I now run West Siberian Laikas. I would compare them more to the curs. Not the nose of hounds. Natural tree dogs, gritty and smart. They'll hunt anything you let them. Littermate to my old female has rigged and treed a few cats in his day. He's only hunted by rigging most his life.

Re: Hound guy turned cur

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:23 pm
by Old dog
you can find insight on kemmer stock for bobcat, lion and bear on face book. you wont find any rambling or bashing bull scat and very few posts but if you ask a question on that page you will have answers from some of the most informed kemmer guys around.

Re: Hound guy turned cur

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:27 am
by Tanner Peyton
Old dog wrote:you can find insight on kemmer stock for bobcat, lion and bear on face book. you wont find any rambling or bashing bull scat and very few posts but if you ask a question on that page you will have answers from some of the most informed kemmer guys around.


Well maybe things have changed or maybe you're being sarcastic, haha. But it was all the trash talking, cussing, and fighting that caused me to leave face book. I mean guys still fight and argue on here but they tend to be a lot more civil about it. Anyhow, like I said things might have changed and thanks for the info.

Happy hunting, Tanner

Re: Hound guy turned cur

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 4:16 pm
by Old dog
yea I know what you mean tanner. im not being sarcastic at all. my page is mostly all old timers discussing blood lines and the diferent traits in the kemmer dogs. too much swearing and bashing is not allowed at all. just a good place to research traits from people that have seen them first hand. good luckn your search for the cur you are looking for. he is out there somewhere that's for sure.

Re: Hound guy turned cur

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:59 pm
by Tanner Peyton
Yeah I was part of that bobcat, bear and lion dogs page on the face space. I meet some pretty good dudes on there, a few that were in David's book. But there was a quite a few people on there that were just into slander and other stuff that speak poorly of hounds men. But that page you speak of sounds like a good deal. I'll check it one of these days using my wife's profile. I like to learn that's for sure.
Thanks for your help mister.