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Question on catahoulas

Postby hillbilly boy » Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:43 am

Ok want to see what you guys that hunt with catahoulas would say a guy I trust pretty good said he believed they would be a good fit for the all around dog doing coon hunting at night and vermin hunting in the day his were hog dogs In the day and coon at night but he said he met a guy in Texas that had used them for coyote in the day the way the guy talked they would track and catch both was wondering if anyone has ever seen a pack of catahoulas that had the speed to catch coyotes seams like there is a few guys using them but would like to see what you guys have seen
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Re: Question on catahoulas

Postby SASS » Wed May 03, 2017 12:37 pm

I have hunted with tons of Cats and have owned a few as well. They are not the fastest dogs so I don't know how they would do in a coyote race but you can bet that most would have no problem killing one. They are usually rough gritty dogs. I have heard of a few that will tree though the majority will not as they are not a tree dog, they are a stock dog. So just keep that in mind. Being a stock dog they are usually smart and can have a lot of handle put on them.

Here is the problem with Catahoulas, they have merle coats and colored eyes so every fur mommy has to have one, and a lot of breeders know they can charge triple and quadruple for a double colored eye merle so they breed for that instead of working and hunting ability and this has pretty much ruined the breed. If you want to tree game get a dog with a little tree power, I know they use big game bred Kemmer curs for coyote hunting and treeing game look into those, or maybe a bmc that comes from parents who squirrel hunt or tree game to improve your chances that yours will tree. Good luck.
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Re: Question on catahoulas

Postby hillbilly boy » Thu May 04, 2017 8:26 am

Ok thanks when my friend named know a guy that used Used them to track and catch coyotes that was the first time I have heard of them tracking coyotes instead of decoying them and it seems like a decoy dog would not work so good because we hunt in the winter
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Re: Question on catahoulas

Postby Dan Edwards » Fri May 05, 2017 11:56 am

Not a good choice for coon or coyote hunting. For hog dogs though yes some of them are very nice bay dogs. As far as one of them being a kill dog I have personally never seen that in one. Very rough gritty bay dogs yes, kill dogs far from it. Very far from it. There is a difference.
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Re: Question on catahoulas

Postby SASS » Fri May 05, 2017 12:34 pm

Dan Edwards wrote:Not a good choice for coon or coyote hunting. For hog dogs though yes some of them are very nice bay dogs. As far as one of them being a kill dog I have personally never seen that in one. Very rough gritty bay dogs yes, kill dogs far from it. Very far from it. There is a difference.


Yeah I have not seen a catahoula used for coyote period. I had a female that killed two coyotes in the short period I had her both in my backyard. But that was just because she was protecting the chickens Im guessing. Ive never seen them be used on coyote in any way other than just being a livestock guardian around the place. I'm not a coyote hunter so I don't know what it would take to be a good kill dog anyways and that is not what I was insinuating. But I have had a couple that I would bet the house on no coyote would be able to stand up too. know that.
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Re: Question on catahoulas

Postby hillbilly boy » Fri May 05, 2017 10:04 pm

Would you guys think any of the curs would have a chance of being coyote bay I am interested in the curs since they are more common around here then running walkers and I just like the way they work and handle
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Re: Question on catahoulas

Postby Jeff Eberle » Fri May 05, 2017 10:55 pm

Sometime first hand experience is more valuable then someone else's opinion. Yes doing your homework is important, but from all your post it's pretty obvious you want a cur. And here come another ones option, if your going to be able to prove anyone wrong it's going to be with a cur. The only thing I would tell you from experience is to look around and find a cur hound cross of no more then 50% hound that come from a line of hound cur cross that someone has put time and affort into developing the line. This has two reason, the hound blood adds more bottom to the cur and a line on dogs that someone has put years of work into developing will be able to tell you what his line is capable of doing and then it's up to you to determine if you can take that and turn it into what your wanting. But you will never know til you try.
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Re: Question on catahoulas

Postby hillbilly boy » Fri May 05, 2017 11:39 pm

I have found a guy that breed's kamer stock curs and he has a few that has bayed them as they were hunting other things so we are going to see how a couple of pups off of the ones that have bayed the most of them and see how they do
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Re: Question on catahoulas

Postby Dan Edwards » Mon May 08, 2017 4:06 pm

SASS wrote:
Dan Edwards wrote:Not a good choice for coon or coyote hunting. For hog dogs though yes some of them are very nice bay dogs. As far as one of them being a kill dog I have personally never seen that in one. Very rough gritty bay dogs yes, kill dogs far from it. Very far from it. There is a difference.


Yeah I have not seen a catahoula used for coyote period. I had a female that killed two coyotes in the short period I had her both in my backyard. But that was just because she was protecting the chickens Im guessing. Ive never seen them be used on coyote in any way other than just being a livestock guardian around the place. I'm not a coyote hunter so I don't know what it would take to be a good kill dog anyways and that is not what I was insinuating. But I have had a couple that I would bet the house on no coyote would be able to stand up too. know that.


I can believe they would kill one around the house or chicken yard for sure. That doesn't surprise me at all partner. I just meant in a hunting situation. I've seen bird dogs that would kill them around the house but something happens when they gotta run one down in the wild, catch it, and kill it. Very very few dogs can do that alone. Hell very few can do it with 2 or 3 out in the open. Down in creeks and stuff though seen it more than I can count or remember. If ya catch enough coyotes you will find out just what they are made of. There are coyotes and then there are coyotes.
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Re: Question on catahoulas

Postby Dan Edwards » Mon May 08, 2017 4:09 pm

Jeff Eberle wrote:Sometime first hand experience is more valuable then someone else's opinion. Yes doing your homework is important, but from all your post it's pretty obvious you want a cur. And here come another ones option, if your going to be able to prove anyone wrong it's going to be with a cur. The only thing I would tell you from experience is to look around and find a cur hound cross of no more then 50% hound that come from a line of hound cur cross that someone has put time and affort into developing the line. This has two reason, the hound blood adds more bottom to the cur and a line on dogs that someone has put years of work into developing will be able to tell you what his line is capable of doing and then it's up to you to determine if you can take that and turn it into what your wanting. But you will never know til you try.


Good post.

Ive caught coyotes with cur dogs. It can be done without question. Can it be done as often as I catch them now. Nope. I hunted 2x as hard to catch 25% of what I catch now but like Jeff said I had to prove people wrong......but did I? That's a matter of opinion. HAHA!

I shouldn't say I hunted 2x as hard cuz that's not true. Ive never seen a cur dogs that could even think about hunting as long nor as often as what I run now. I guess I should have said I worked 2x as hard and that's prolly and understatement.
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Re: Question on catahoulas

Postby SASS » Tue May 09, 2017 11:51 am

Dan Edwards wrote:
SASS wrote:
Dan Edwards wrote:I can believe they would kill one around the house or chicken yard for sure. That doesn't surprise me at all partner. I just meant in a hunting situation. I've seen bird dogs that would kill them around the house but something happens when they gotta run one down in the wild, catch it, and kill it. Very very few dogs can do that alone. Hell very few can do it with 2 or 3 out in the open. Down in creeks and stuff though seen it more than I can count or remember. If ya catch enough coyotes you will find out just what they are made of. There are coyotes and then there are coyotes.


Thanks for explaining what you meant and how it changes in a hunting situation. I would have never thought of that because like I said I am not a coyote hunter and I know you are. It is something I would definitely like to try someday though. Ive always liked the looks of running hounds and have always had a curiosity about running hounds like July's and Goodmans and Running Walker's crossed with them.

Yeah I know coyotes can be tough SOB's. I also had a female OFRN APBT that liked killing them but she was only about 47 pounds in shape, she killed many again just in the backyard but she would get put full of holes and cuts from doing it. I think her total over a 9 or 10 year span had to be close to double digits.
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Re: Question on catahoulas

Postby Dan Edwards » Tue May 09, 2017 1:07 pm

47 in shape is a big bitch for a bulldog. Perfect catch dog size.
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Re: Question on catahoulas

Postby SASS » Wed May 10, 2017 12:37 am

She was an awesome bitch, not real big but def on the bigger side. I wasn't hunting hogs then or she would have definitely been used as she was the smartest and fastest bulldog I have ever owned and I have owned quite a few. I like my catchdogs between about 50-70lb I have found that to be the best balance of strength and speed. But that is just how I like them. Happy hunting!
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Re: Question on catahoulas

Postby SASS » Wed May 10, 2017 12:38 am

Sorry Hillbilly didnt mean to thread jack.
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Re: Question on catahoulas

Postby Dan Edwards » Wed May 10, 2017 11:45 am

SASS wrote:She was an awesome bitch, not real big but def on the bigger side. I wasn't hunting hogs then or she would have definitely been used as she was the smartest and fastest bulldog I have ever owned and I have owned quite a few. I like my catchdogs between about 50-70lb I have found that to be the best balance of strength and speed. But that is just how I like them. Happy hunting!


I think 50-70 is perfect as well. I guess it all just depends on the country you are hunting. Out in the open bigger in the thickets smaller of course. Take care

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