Now that you mention it, I have had success with meat scraps before. I dumped them on the ground and had an instant hit. Also, if you take a fish and seal it up in a plastic container it will stink like hell. I have some mesh bags up a few times and they always get torn down by coons.
Obviously, the most important thing is to put the bait in the right location in good bear habitat. And when running hounds, you want to have a number of them.
Since I always have 6 or 8 baits out, I only put about 2 or 3 gallons of bait in each one at a time. I have heard that if you stuff the bait full with a few buckets then the bear might not come back for a few days after he chows down a big meal. What are your experiences regarding this? I always thought a bear just ate however much you put out, and the more the better.
What is your favorite feed to use? I typically use anything out of a dumpster as I don't want to pay 50 bucks for a barrel when I need a lot of bait.
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I have tried it both ways with alot of bait or a little bait and it dosent seem to make much diferance.If you are bait hunting i think you should youse less bait so the first bears thier will get the best eating, it might help them come in before dark.But when i am hound hunting i like to use more bait because i want to keep them thier eating as long as possible,for fresher tracks in the mourning,and it dosent hurt to have them full when you run them lol.they do seem to get sick of it in taining season but in the fall they will eat all they can. I have used alot of diferant bait but i have found that doghnuts work the best.I also youse a mixture of candy,peanuts and granola,it is expensive but it is easy to handle and i can buy it in bulk.I run 50 to 60 baits a year so i need alot of it.HOPE THIS HELPS.
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Just some ideas I have learned from years of trial and error. The most important part of baiting is bait location. I look for an area that is close to either a tag alder or cedar swamp swamp, because this is where the bear spend most of their day napping and staying cool with ample cover. My rule of thumb is; if a new bait is not hit within three days, it probably is not going to be a good bait. Granted you can lure them in, but when the berries, mushrooms, acorns, and other natural food supply rippens, your not going to keep them there. JMO
When I first started baiting, I too used to bury the stumps in the ground. I have changed that thought about ten years ago, and now put them in the middle of the sand bed I hauled in. I got tired of scooping water out of the stumps from the September rains. You'll find that after years of dumping bait in the stump, the grease is going to make a watertight seal in the bottom of the stump, not allowing much water to drain through. JMO.
Here in WI we are not allowed to use meat, fish or any other animal parts or byproducts. The bear in WI seem to have developed a sweet tooth and crave the cookies, cookie dough, doughnuts, cereal, taco shells, candied hearts, or whatever other bait you throw at them.
I've had several guys come here from other states where meat is legal, and after seeing how the sweets work, have gone back and switched over. They called me back saying how they were glad they switched, because now they were able to hide their baits from the public and other hunters, because they didn't have the smell of rotting meat giving their baitsite away.
When I start a new bait location, I dump the grease right on top of the stump and rock and will spray some Hickory Smoke as high on the nearest tree as I can reach. If the site is in a good location, its usually only one or two days before the bait gets hit. Hope these ideas help.
When I first started baiting, I too used to bury the stumps in the ground. I have changed that thought about ten years ago, and now put them in the middle of the sand bed I hauled in. I got tired of scooping water out of the stumps from the September rains. You'll find that after years of dumping bait in the stump, the grease is going to make a watertight seal in the bottom of the stump, not allowing much water to drain through. JMO.
Here in WI we are not allowed to use meat, fish or any other animal parts or byproducts. The bear in WI seem to have developed a sweet tooth and crave the cookies, cookie dough, doughnuts, cereal, taco shells, candied hearts, or whatever other bait you throw at them.
I've had several guys come here from other states where meat is legal, and after seeing how the sweets work, have gone back and switched over. They called me back saying how they were glad they switched, because now they were able to hide their baits from the public and other hunters, because they didn't have the smell of rotting meat giving their baitsite away.
When I start a new bait location, I dump the grease right on top of the stump and rock and will spray some Hickory Smoke as high on the nearest tree as I can reach. If the site is in a good location, its usually only one or two days before the bait gets hit. Hope these ideas help.
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Thanks for the ideas, Joe.
I would not use meat either for feeding the bear, just as an attractant at first for the rotten smell.
What is the best way to set up the stump if you do not bury it?
I have heard of Wisconsin hunters nailing plywood on the bottom but that would not fly with the game wardens here in Michigan.
I would not use meat either for feeding the bear, just as an attractant at first for the rotten smell.
What is the best way to set up the stump if you do not bury it?
I have heard of Wisconsin hunters nailing plywood on the bottom but that would not fly with the game wardens here in Michigan.
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it may sound gross but if you or anyone you know traps beaver, then ask if you can have the carcas snd freeze it. we will chop the carcass in half with an ax when it is frozen and then we use tie wire to wire it to a really long and sturdy stick and stick it as high in a tree as you can. now this is the best lure i have ever used. it beats greese this will bring them in and you just have to keep them there. it works good for bobcat bait also in trap setups
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Spring, I just stand the stump up in the middle of my sand bed and cap it with a flat rock. I located a bunch of flat granite rock in the southern part of the state where I Turkey hunt and hauled them back a few at a time. They make perfect lids. I got tired of the bear breaking the crosscut wooden lids..Plywood is not legal in WI either, as our rules state the bait material must be natural.
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Re: Baiting
Starting new baits I have used dollar store maple syrup and squirted it high in the trees and all around the stump. The scent carries well and by putting it on the ground and brush around the stump they get it on their paws and legs and spread scent trails through the woods for others to follow. Cheap, easy, and effective. Once the bait site is established they return to it year after year without needing to draw them back in.
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Re: Baiting
I burn a pound of bacon at the bait site when I first set it up. Soon as I pick a spot, I fire up a small white gas stove with a cheap frying pan on it. Usually takes a half hour or more to burn all the way, and puts off a ton of smoke. If the wind is right the smoke hangs along the ground creating a scent trail to the bait. You can do it at different times of the day and get the smoke to go in a different direction (thermals). I use a bland bait like bread or pop corn and add grease and syrup so I also take a small branch and smear it in the bait and throw it up as high as I can in a nearby tree. Other than that its a 55 gallon drum chained and cabled to a tree so it stays upright. A lake of grease around the drum gets them covered in it and gets multiple bear coming in. Properly placed holes with bars on the inside make it hard to get the bait out and keeps them there longer.
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Re: Baiting
I used a mix of fryer grease and liquid smoke, you have to keep it shook up good or it separates, then I use one of those master blaster squirt guns to shoot it as high as 20 feet into the tree's. Freshen every couple days until I get a hit. I'm using the same sites I've used for 15 years so they usually get hit pretty quick.
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