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Bluetick Bear Hounds

Postby HOGMAN » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:34 pm

Does anyone run blue ticks on bear? I have heard that a bluetick is going to be slower? And not gone be able to run a bear to get it treed? Fill me in please? I have bluetick coondogs and I would love to know what yall think.
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Re: Bluetick Bear Hounds

Postby Sebastianblues » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:24 pm

Don't believe everything you hear
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Re: Bluetick Bear Hounds

Postby pegleg » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:33 pm

Well I've got some bluetick colored dogs that aren't slow by any measure. They started out a bit low on game and grit but that didn't take much to fix. Now I'm kinda thinking of trying to dial it back. Then again I've seen slow white dogs to. If you have the time and resources you could by ten dogs of any breed and get every type. Sure there's generalities but they aren't rules. Remember american hounds are split on color more then type.
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Re: Bluetick Bear Hounds

Postby HOGMAN » Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:40 pm

I swear I hang around too many walker guys... that's who told me to ask... I have seen more slower dogs in the bluetick breed... and I coon hunt... with them.. But I figured there was faster bluedogs in big game section.
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Re: Bluetick Bear Hounds

Postby 1bludawg » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:07 pm

There are some slow blue dogs but there are also some that run to catch and do!
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Re: Bluetick Bear Hounds

Postby T.R. » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:20 pm

Theres fast bluetick coon dogs hunted behind a pile of them.
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Re: Bluetick Bear Hounds

Postby Pwilson » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:28 am

TR were is that pile cuz I hunted behind about 20 and only seen one that could hang with fast dogs so I know there out there but who breeds them


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Re: Bluetick Bear Hounds

Postby T.R. » Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:09 pm

Most that iv had or hunted behind that were fast where smokey river dogs. Iv been behind a few buzz anderson dogs that dang sure werent slow. Theres some people on here hunting his dogs on lion or bear maybe both. Wish i still had some of them id invite ya over to see. Gave all my coonhunting up to chase pigs.
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Re: Bluetick Bear Hounds

Postby dhostetler » Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:19 pm

Following is the most common thing I have heard around hound guys.

Walker guys say: Blueticks are slow and track straddlers.
Bluetick guys say: Walkers are hot nosed false treers.
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Re: Bluetick Bear Hounds

Postby 1bludawg » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:02 pm

I've hunted all the breeds over the years and each one has its strong and weak points .What you have to do is pick one that suits you and the way you hunt .Some guys have no preference and just hunt what catches game.My best dogs have been grade hounds with a strong shot of bluetick and b&t in them .My best registered dogs have been Smokey River (Diamond Jim blood) or blues with S.R. in them.I've also seen Hammer and Cameron that were good .I'm speaking of bobcat hunting with them.I like a blueticks independent nature and their never say die attitude which i readily admit some guys don't like.I can't count the times i've seen a ole blue dog separate from the pack and tree a cat and hold the tree with other dogs trailing all over the country side.In the end you just have to find the dog(breed ) that works for you.
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Re: Bluetick Bear Hounds

Postby dhostetler » Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:26 am

I have run with quite a few Hammer blueticks and currently my best strike dog is a Hammer bluetick. The 2 Camerons I hunted with were dumber than a box of rocks but I doubt that is true for all Camerons because of the amount of Camerons out there. Yes there are real good lines of bluetick bear dogs out there. I found a line of walkers that I really like so my long term plan is to eventually have a pack made up mostly of Loose Bruce Walkers.

Currently my best cat dog is a walker/hammer mix but she looks like a full bluetick. I always liked to run her on cats especially with diehard walker guys. She was never outshone on a cat race until I ran her on a bobcat with Art Ragsdale's dogs.
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Re: Bluetick Bear Hounds

Postby 1bludawg » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:00 pm

This is my opinion but i believe it to be accurate.The majority of dogs in any breed are just mediocre to average type hounds .I define a average dog as a hound that needs help to tree game . I've seen lots of dogs that looked awesome when paired with the right dog or dogs but were almost worthless when they got off by themselves or were hunted alone .These types should never be bred but of course they are .I estimate that 5 to 10% of the total hound population are above average to top dogs,so when you get into this game and start looking for hounds that can tree something you're probably going to try several dogs before you find a good one .
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Re: Bluetick Bear Hounds

Postby bearsnva » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:22 pm

.I estimate that 5 to 10% of the total hound population are above average to top dogs,so when you get into this game and start looking for hounds that can tree something you're probably going to try several dogs before you find a good one .-----from 1bludog.

If you find a really good one in several tries you have done good, and sometimes you are looking at way more than several. good post 1bludog.
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Re: Bluetick Bear Hounds

Postby 1bludawg » Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:16 pm

bearsnva ,i thought about saying"numerous" instead of "several " but thought that might discourage the newbies in this sport. Its nothing like the anti's think where you just get a hound and start catching game .For most of us it takes a few years or thousands of dollars to start having some success .
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Re: Bluetick Bear Hounds

Postby mark » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:38 pm

In all fairness to the dogs i think you need to put about the same percentages on hunters. Ive seen a lot of special young hounds get ruined by the person hunting it. Ive also seen above average finished dogs get sold and are completely ruined in a matter of months.

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