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[lawdawgharris]

Come on Beebout-it!

Hollowpoint, you’re right. The blessing is just being able to get out in the woods. Those little jagds are comical. I had a couple buddies in from Colorado about a month ago. One of them brought 2 jagds. We didn’t send them until we knew what we had bayed. One they weren’t familiar with hogs and two I didn’t want them to get one or all of my dogs butchered by getting too up close and personal. It doesn’t take a lot to talk some of mine into catching. It worked out great and they got to see and work several bays, and yes they did bust some lol.


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[Hollowpoint]

Lawdawg, somehow I’ve been lucky with the jagd’s I’ve had as far as bay/bust/catch. Mine always preferred to bay and will only catch the small stuff. My buster is the bigger dog that should be catching but has commitment issues doing it, or needs more practice to get it right.

[lawdawgharris]

How old is he?


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[lawdawgharris]

Do those Jagds mature pretty early?


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[Hollowpoint]

Man it just seems to vary a lot, not in my case. My male just turned three and he finally put it together, he ain’t perfect and has his faults, but he hunts and will go pretty far on a track. The big female is that heideterrier, her mother is a straight catch, idk how the father is on hogs, he was rough as can be on coyotes. She’s almost two and still has some pup in her, so I’m holding out hope that she’ll mature soon.

I remember my male jagd running with the other dogs to the bay, and when I got there he was just looking at the action, no barking, nothing. Now he will bay anything bigger than 40/50lb and catch the smaller stuff. I can’t explain it, I just keep taking them out and expose them to the desired game, and wait for the genetics to kick in.

Judge came up here for a round this morning, it was a slow start but his dogs found some pork and got the job done. Was a group, while we were going to them it split up, we could hear a couple of his dogs down by the water. My jagd made his way to the action, we got to a shoreline and saw them on the other side. We had to bust brush to get around to them, was a fun morning. Just trying to get as much in before turkey season starts here.

[lawdawgharris]

I understand. I forgot you had the Heide terrier. Dogs are as different as people, hats off to you for your patience. I don’t have it in me to wait that long. I’m spoiled to early starters that USUALLY are contributors after a half dozen hunts or so. Not saying they are go do it by themselves type dogs but have an idea about what we are doing and usually trying to relay and bay their own hog. I figures those terriers would mature early. Most of those tenacious type breeds seem like they do. I’m sure they’ll make dogs, it sure sounds like you’re doing right by them.

Ole Judge is a good guy. His dogs will hustle. I’ve never been around the momma to those pups but I’ve hunted with the daddy a couple of times and he did good, especially for being young and not real experienced then. I bet those pups make dogs, and I bet they are salty!


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[Hollowpoint]

I’m not by nature a patient person, I like early starters but never have seem to have any. The heide has a percentage of Airedale, I’ve heard they’re slow to mature. Maybe that’s true, idk, I’m moving towards the cur style dogs. My friend has a young catahoula, smaller framed dog, but man he is a hog dog. I have a video of him loose baying a group of 4 good size hogs by himself. Cow dog style, hogs bunched up, not breaking. Man watching that performance was impressive, I offered to take him off his hands (I’m still waiting on a response), I’d get rid of everything else and hunt that dog by himself.

[Hollowpoint]

Yes, Judge is a good one, his dogs are legit. The momma dog looks a lot better in person than when she was blown up with a belly full of pups. She’s got some leg under her and moves with athleticism, which I like.

I’m just wondering if those pups will be smart enough to back up and bay or if they’re going to be on the rough side. I prefer them to be smart enough to know what they can handle and what they can’t.

[lawdawgharris]

I wonder about them being too salty too. If I wanted them to be smart about their bite, I’d start them on something that can get their attention at a young age. Not hurt them of course but make them think more like their daddy’s side than their momma’s. I’d also never work them together unless I knew the hog was too much for them. You know like I know, dogs have a gang bangers mind set. The more of them there are the tougher they get.

That stock sense you witnessed is really fun to watch. It’s actually amazing to see. My Outlaw dog is really good at it. He knows what to catch and what to bay, when to breathe the same air and when to stand back, when to circle and when stay stationary, when to run to the head to turn them and when to GRAB the back end and make them turn or set. I’ve been fortunate enough to get a few videos of him baying and I tell you what, it’s amazing to see why he does what he does in slow motion. He makes decisions in real time and I’ve wondered why he made them until I slow mo’ed it. It has really made me appreciate him even more.

I’m a firm believer that a hog that truly wants to run is going unless the dogs just all out catch it. But I can tell you that a dog that is really fast on track can force them to make mistakes and decide to stand where a slow trailer won’t ever see them again. If you have that fast trailing dog that has stock sense once they get that hogs air, they can usually give an opportunity to catch it. Not always though lol.


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[Nufo]

Hey guys, I haven’t posted in a while but I still lurk and read what you all have going on. My dogs treed 4 lions this year so far and we just treed our last one this past weekend on bare ground. My youngest Stephen’s dog is really starting to figure things out. She’s still trashy but is doing good on these cats now. Here is a short video I made from last weekend https://youtu.be/ugyjLI_gPP0?si=2FgEEwrfEt1pxssI

[lawdawgharris]

Nufo that’s a good video. I’m glad your young dog is coming on. That always makes a person feel better. I haven’t been around any of the Stephens dogs that I know of. Describe them to me if you don’t mind.

We made a hunt yesterday and I figured out that Father Time is catching up to me rapidly. It was me, my nephew, and our friend Amber. Of course we all had dogs and it’s get warm fast here. We cast some of her dogs and a couple of pups and they went north then we cast the other dogs and sent them south. They were gone for a long time and some of them came in so we loaded them and moved and cast again. They finally found a good boar about 220# with those wicked 2 1/2” teeth. In no time at all the other dogs were there and he had a mob creaming at him. I was worried that that many dogs was going to get some dogs cut up because they get braver with numbers. Thankfully he was in some thick briar cover so they couldn’t really crowd him too much. He tried to break a couple times but you could hear that he was a good hog when they were biting him in the back end and he would verbally let you know he felt it. Catch dogs got there and sealed the deal but when I got my hands on him to throw him I couldn’t. Too many dogs on his head and he was in all the saplings and briars so he was being helped out with staying up. I had a back leg and opposite front, front and back on the same side, just a front, just the hinds, but no matter what I couldn’t get him thrown. I had left the truck without a tie rope or a knife like some rookie, Amber let me know that lol. I finally hollered at my nephew to hurry up, because me and the catch dogs were wore out. He finally got there and we got him stuck. He whooped my butt in there. I was glad to see some help.


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[Nufo]

[quote="lawdawgharris"]Nufo that’s a good video. I’m glad your young dog is coming on. That always makes a person feel better. I haven’t been around any of the Stephens dogs that I know of. Describe them to me if you don’t mind.

Law, basically little black cur dogs. My female is 35lbs super fast and agile. Much colder nose than my mountain cur. Open on track. Has a funky bawl locate but chops on the tree. She really wants to find a track so when I cut her she will get out as far as she needs but being that I can’t get her completely broke off deer/elk/moose it’s a little bite of an issue. I’m starting to take more chances with letting her go. If she’s straight lining a track I’ll tone her back. If it’s looping like a cat I’ll let her go. She’s good for a train wreck or two though. Figure the trash should resolve its self as she’s starting to catch more game. I hear they make good little hog dogs too

[lawdawgharris]

How many of them do you have? She’s sounds like a really nice little dog. I’m more convinced every hunt that tracking speed is one of the biggest tools needed to catch tough game. Any dog can catch the easy game but the determined game has to have relentless, hard pursuit to either change its mind or get its air. I assume the black dog with the white blaze face is her?


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[Nufo]

She’s the all black one. The white face one is a new dog I got from a friend. He’s also a Stephen’s. This was his first lion. He went with the other dogs and was locked down on the tree. I got him from a friend and he comes from good stock. Been on a bunch of bears but he’s been mostly just a pack dog. Hoping that changes hunting him with a smaller pack of dogs and getting more opportunities to start tracks

[lawdawgharris]

I see. They are nice looking dogs.


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