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Re: New to Bobcat Hunting help?

Postby eskinner45 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:13 pm

Thanks for all the help guys i really appreciate it and if you guys think of anything else keep posting this is all really helping a lot.i greatly appreciate all the advice when i finally do my pup hopefully in the next few months then i am sure i will be needing more and more advice.
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Re: New to Bobcat Hunting help?

Postby Nolte » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:14 pm

twist wrote: If it takes two dogs to equal ones ability something is wrong! Good luck in your quest. Andy


In NW WI, we've found that a two-team pack that compliments each other is the best route to go. And that combination can be tough to find. You need that stubborn track grinder and then a quick sprinter that locates to cut em down. I know guys who have spent a LOT of time trying to find that 1 do it all dog and most have come up short. I know I don't have the time to sort through enough dogs to find one. Heck with our cat tag situation, snow and responsibilities, it's tough to even get out and run one. My own thought is to have a good bear/yote cold trailer and then a layup type coon dog. And if either one can run a jumped critter real well you might have enough to catch a few cats. And if the snows deep you might catch a bunch and think you've got it figured out. :D

Someone said something about being rich earlier. Well you don't have to be, but it doesn't hurt. What a guy will need to be "rich" on is time, areas and patience to get some dogs that will consistently catch cats. .
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Re: New to Bobcat Hunting help?

Postby eskinner45 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:44 pm

Lay up type coondog? Do you think getting a fast coondog over a foxhound cross is better? I was thinking of trying to get a foxhoumd treeing walker cross and then a black and tan to cold trail. Is that a good idea or no get something else?
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Re: New to Bobcat Hunting help?

Postby twist » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:01 pm

A young guy startin out needs to focus on just one dog as if they start getting to many dogs things turn to a wreck. Andy
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Re: New to Bobcat Hunting help?

Postby houndogger » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:28 pm

Whens the last time some of you fellas had your dogs out? Lol
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Re: New to Bobcat Hunting help?

Postby South Texan » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:32 pm

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Re: New to Bobcat Hunting help?

Postby al baldwin » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:57 pm

At this time I only own two dogs, both were kenneled & hunted by my friend this past winter. I did make several hunts with him & all the dogs past fall. winter & spring. Friend gets the dogs out as much as possible in the summer for exercise. It is very hard to hunt here in the summer, fire season/s have been severe past several summers, most gates are locked & signs posted stated anyone caught on those lands will be charged with criminal trespass. News saying looks like the summers are going to continue with longer fire season. There was a time for years I hunted year around, and at one point had seven trained cat dogs. My advice to this young hunter is free & he can take it or leave it. Al
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Re: New to Bobcat Hunting help?

Postby david » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:05 pm

twist wrote:A young guy startin out needs to focus on just one dog as if they start getting to many dogs things turn to a wreck. Andy


You make a good point based on seeing it happen. But the man already has a good coon dog. The dog can not catch a bobcat on its own. Are you telling him he has to get rid of a broke coon dog, buy one puppy and start over again.

If that is what you are saying, I disagree whole heartedly with you.

There is a young pup out there who also cannot catch his own bobcat yet, who also could not be trusted around off game yet because he is just a pup. Yet that pup has the right stuff to make a cat climb. His reliable coon dog can get the track going, keep it going, locate the cat in a tree and bark treed on it.

You are setting this man back at least a couple years if you are telling him to get rid of his broke coon dog and focus on one pup.
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Re: New to Bobcat Hunting help?

Postby david » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:18 pm

houndogger wrote:Whens the last time some of you fellas had your dogs out? Lol


I am guessing you mean "how do you guys have so much time to make posts on BGH?"

Well, last time I cat hunted was back in June. I left the cats and came back to the oil field. Last time I coon hunted with the neighbor kid was day before yesterday.

Oil is slow. So I have the time to torment you and my freind Andy :D

Trying to get you guys praying that oil would pick up. Lol
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Re: New to Bobcat Hunting help?

Postby pegleg » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:56 pm

I know and have been known to preach the one pup rule. But the truth is there's times its just not possible. One dog bear or lion packs are rare. And if you insist on hunting one dog it tends to get rarer to your dismay.
And the single dog with the ability to shift gears on a desert bobcat is almost unknown in my experience. The thing about cat hunting is you have to actually be pretty good at it to catch enough to stay interested.
I have owned a few dogs that could be taken to Colorado or Kansas and catch cats solo. But they didn't do it here very often except for pop ups. And I admit to this day I run pairs of pups all the time. Yes they can cause more trouble. And generally play more for awhile. But two pups will leave the working dogs alone a little more. And it doesn't take long before they catch on.
Now if you only have yourself to train a dog you better stick to one and game you can handle together until he's pretty good at it alone. I love hunting dogs, but the idea of trying to single handedly train several pups doesn't bring visions of joy or relaxing hunts.
On coon in a good area I might be persuaded to do it. But anything else in anything rougher then a creek bottom and I'll pass .
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Re: New to Bobcat Hunting help?

Postby twist » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:09 pm

I should restate my phrase by saying one pup rather than (dog) as in his first post he was wanting to get two pups one that could cold trail and one that could have jump speed to make climb. Two pups are trouble for inexperienced hunters. More than likely he would be setting himself up for failure. Andy
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Re: New to Bobcat Hunting help?

Postby david » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:14 pm

Well said!

I am glad you made that clear, because I did not ever mean to advocate that he get a bunch of new pups, or even two of them.

All along I have been hoping to say that his coon dog he already has can be extremely useful in the cat hunting world. He only needs to add that ONE DOG, with catch magic.

Nolte spoke it very clearly. I wish I could have said it as clearly and in as few words.
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Re: New to Bobcat Hunting help?

Postby david » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:23 pm

Nolte wrote:
twist wrote: If it takes two dogs to equal ones ability something is wrong! Good luck in your quest. Andy


In NW WI, we've found that a two-team pack that compliments each other is the best route to go. And that combination can be tough to find. You need that stubborn track grinder and then a quick sprinter that locates to cut em down. I know guys who have spent a LOT of time trying to find that 1 do it all dog and most have come up short. I know I don't have the time to sort through enough dogs to find one. Heck with our cat tag situation, snow and responsibilities, it's tough to even get out and run one. My own thought is to have a good bear/yote cold trailer and then a layup type coon dog. And if either one can run a jumped critter real well you might have enough to catch a few cats. And if the snows deep you might catch a bunch and think you've got it figured out. :D

Someone said something about being rich earlier. Well you don't have to be, but it doesn't hurt. What a guy will need to be "rich" on is time, areas and patience to get some dogs that will consistently catch cats. .
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Re: New to Bobcat Hunting help?

Postby houndogger » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:34 pm

david wrote:
houndogger wrote:Whens the last time some of you fellas had your dogs out? Lol


I am guessing you mean "how do you guys have so much time to make posts on BGH?"

Well, last time I cat hunted was back in June. I left the cats and came back to the oil field. Last time I coon hunted with the neighbor kid was day before yesterday.

Oil is slow. So I have the time to torment you and my freind Andy :D

Trying to get you guys praying that oil would pick up. Lol


David was just poking fun as most seasons are closed for alot of fellas on here. Hope oil turns around for you soon.
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Re: RE: Re: New to Bobcat Hunting help?

Postby Nolte » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:11 pm

eskinner45 wrote:Lay up type coondog? Do you think getting a fast coondog over a foxhound cross is better? I was thinking of trying to get a foxhoumd treeing walker cross and then a black and tan to cold trail. Is that a good idea or no get something else?

Umm I probably should clarify that my layup type coon dog is one that is a top shelf locator. Most bear guys like me never really test how good of a locator a dog is. It's down the list of things we need. But it is very handy on cats. I'd like to know how many cats I've walked in to where I thought "that dogs trying to tree" but never quite could. A good locator would have locked it down.

I'm not sure on the foxhound or coon hound question. I'd just try to find whatever is working in my country and get some of that. Guys who are already doing that have already whittled that choice down. That doesn't mean a guy can't try other stuff but it's definitely a great spot to start. You might not get it for $ though. It could take some wrangling of a guys dogs in the brush or helping out when other guys are sitting at home by a warm fire.

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