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Shive's, Meeks, and House linebred dogs.

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Hello everyone,
My name is Pete McLaughlin. I am searching for men that are interested in dogs that are linebred on the Shive's Goldhill Lead, Kaw River Rebel, House's Lipper, and Yadkin River Lines of walkers. I live in Ohio with my uncles and they have harbored bloodlines for several years from Les Donley of Millersburg, OH. My uncle's have fallen Ill and cannot hunt anymore due to health. It has become very hard here to get permission to hunt due to the leasing of private land for whitetail trophy hunting. We have seed stock that I we are trying to promote because we feel the bloodlines should not be lost and the dogs deserve to be hunted. My uncle feels that they would be a huge contribution to the Walker breed. These are Ye Olde Big Game Bloodlines! These dogs go back to Shives' Goldhill Lead, Kaw River Rebel, and Lipper and his full sister Clearfork Babe in a five Generation Pedigree. It is amazing, It's like they stepped off the page of a history book. The pedigrees are CLEAN with little outside blood. They are the ultimate blend of Shetler's Sonny Boy (who made A.J. Wrights dogs which made Yadkin River) and Johnson's Banjo (one of the most prepotent "on wood" tree power dogs of yesteryear.) My grandfather and uncles personally have known Jim Meeks, Bobby Shives (who I met at walker days in NC as an old man in a wheelchair), and Joe house. My family has bred the Yadkin River line of dogs since the late 80's when they hunted with Champ and Chico, and my grandfather was the first to find, in his opinion, the greastest "nick" of his life, between the Yadkin River and Goldhill strains. Two closely related lines, bred separately, and brought back together. This is no joke and I have the proof. If you are interested in talking dogs with me or my uncle, please contact me at petey9382@yahoo.com. Thank you. Pete McLaughlin, Blindale Kennels of Ohio.
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I have a 12 year old walker that has the same dogs in his 3 - generation pedigree bottem side. Best dog I ever owned. I am getting a pup out of Idaho that is heavy line bred on his top side.
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Yes, Our dogs are line bred on his bottom side, Donley's Cowboy and Kaw River Lady. I will have to post a pic of the pedigree. Pretty good dog, huh? The bottom side probably contributed to him too.
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The guys in Idaho are breeding his top side trying to keep heavy Loose Bruce in there lines I don't believe they have any of Luke's bottom side in there dogs. I figured his good traits all came from the top and not his bottom???? I don't know much about his bottom side. Were those dogs bred for big game?

He sired several litters and most of the pups turned out but he was bred to mix breed hounds. His daughter June is currently my best bobcat dog.

He has become slow and sometimes acts like he is going senile but is still in good health. When he was younger he had tremendous drive, fast track speed, not very mouthy, he would stay with a bayed bear all day but wasn't a hair puller, and a very good temperament. I walked to many trees with him treed by himself and all other dogs had quit.
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Yes sir his bottom side IS bred for big game, BIG TIME. Johnsons Banjo and Shetler's Sonny Boy are in the history of the breed. Western dogs bred for big game. Shetler's Sonny Boy was the father of Finley River Chief! The bottom side of his pedigree is Impeccable! This bottom side surely contributed to your dogs characteristics! You have Shive's Goldhill Lead in the top of your pedigree too. That's a good thing. You are seeing Johnson's Banjo in your dog. BIG GAME. Sounds like his traits are very consistent with our dogs! Les Donley was no Dummy. He had the best in the country!
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Our Phone # 330-949-7615
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Here is Ped of ours. I can E-mail one that is easier to read. This is linebred for prepotency. Sounds like you got a good one!
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Johnsons Banjo is one of the most under rated, and unsung stud dogs in Walker history!!!!


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http://www.treeingwalkerhistory.com/Fou ... _Roots.php
This website shows how Shetler's Sonny Boy and Johnson's Banjo made a HUGE contribution to the modern walker breed. These dogs were the main contributors to House's Lipper, who was the grandsire of Nocturnal Nailor, one of the most successful dogs in history, followed by the Sackets.
http://www.finleyriverchief.com/Different_Strains.php
"Ch. Nite Ch. Johnson's Banjo was bought by James Merchant. Banjo was known for being a very hard tree dog and for producing the same. James Merchant didn't breed a lot of the dogs he offered to the public so I don't know if you could say there was a MERCHANT strain, but he deserves the credit for recognizing some of these very nice hounds and introducing them to the public. Johnson's Banjo was another of the foundation hounds that was single registered. The BANJO strain was noted for very hard tree dogs. Two of Banjo's more famous sons were Ch. Grand Nite Ch. House's Chief and Grand Nite Ch. Merchant's Banjo II. In their day, they were two of the elite."
"James (Merchant) would later own Banjo and finish 2nd in the 1961 ACHA World Hunt."
He died in 1963. Did you hunt with Ch. Nt. Ch. Johnson's Banjo, over 50 years ago Mr. Willie?
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Try this Link. Tribute to Johnson's Banjo (Merchants' Banjo).
http://72.30.186.176/search/srpcache?ei ... AH2iy7zg--

I wonder what Jim Meeks (one of the top ten Walker breeders in history) would think?

Who do you propose was a bigger contributor to the "on the wood" tree power in Walker history than Shetler's Sonny Boy and Johnson's Banjo?
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You asked , I think house's chief/kentucky judy why I had one determind track and great tree dog been staying close used bruce &some out side males same dogs more or less 40 years
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petey9382 wrote:http://www.treeingwalkerhistory.com/Fou ... _Roots.php
This website shows how Shetler's Sonny Boy and Johnson's Banjo made a HUGE contribution to the modern walker breed. These dogs were the main contributors to House's Lipper, who was the grandsire of Nocturnal Nailor, one of the most successful dogs in history, followed by the Sackets.
http://www.finleyriverchief.com/Different_Strains.php
"Ch. Nite Ch. Johnson's Banjo was bought by James Merchant. Banjo was known for being a very hard tree dog and for producing the same. James Merchant didn't breed a lot of the dogs he offered to the public so I don't know if you could say there was a MERCHANT strain, but he deserves the credit for recognizing some of these very nice hounds and introducing them to the public. Johnson's Banjo was another of the foundation hounds that was single registered. The BANJO strain was noted for very hard tree dogs. Two of Banjo's more famous sons were Ch. Grand Nite Ch. House's Chief and Grand Nite Ch. Merchant's Banjo II. In their day, they were two of the elite."
"James (Merchant) would later own Banjo and finish 2nd in the 1961 ACHA World Hunt."
He died in 1963. Did you hunt with Ch. Nt. Ch. Johnson's Banjo, over 50 years ago Mr. Willie?

Wow!! Nothing like having my head in my hind end. Just saw this, Answering your question no never had the pleasure of hunting with him. But spent enough time around offspring to know where the nose came from. In particular one from central New York. A dog named Pete owned by Harold Crawford. I watched that son of a gun run coon down frozen ice as smooth as glass and put the meat on the wood. Some may think this is irrelevant pertaining to western big game hounds. But upon speaking to Warner Glenns wife Wendy I believe remembering her saying Warners dad Marvin started with dogs out of Houses Chief. And although Joe did as much for the Walker breed as anyone that ever drew a breath. I have a funny feeling ole Banjo had a little more to do with this than a lot realize. JMO But I try and pay attention to things I see with my own peepers, And what others I respect see too. Took me a year to answer ya, but there it is for what it's worth. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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