Help with some English Breeding questions

orcatdog · Post by **orcatdog** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:26 pm

Hey English folks.
My pack usually consists of any creed or color as long as it hunts like I want. But I just picked up a registered redtick from northern California and I'm hooked! This dog is intense, and built right to boot. She is quickly turning into my favorite dog.
I know nothing about older English lines, but here are some in the front of the pedigree:
WarWicks Red Willy
Wilcox Thunder Bingo
Oney's King
Perks Norther Kujo

Can anyone direct me to big game bred Redtick kennels on the West Coast? I manly hunt cats, but do head south for some bears. I'm located in SE Oregon.

Bearhunter · Post by **Bearhunter** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:15 am

the Oney blood(cujo is oney bred also) is the foundation of the english dogs we use here.The wilcox blood is generally cold nose also and get deep type of dogs/Not familar with the first dog.

orcatdog · Post by **orcatdog** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:24 pm

bearhunter,
This dog according to the previous owner came from either WV or Michigan. I know there is a hell of a lot of difference and miles between the two. I am still researching.
Dam was night champ Maggie May Larson
Sire was grand night champ Warwick's Red willy
The ONEY and WILCOX dogs were the gransires / dams.
As I am primarily a big game hunter, would you recommend considering one line over another when I start to look for a stud? Assuming most of my dog's line is ONEY and WILCOX?
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Bearhunter · Post by **Bearhunter** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:52 pm

orcatdog wrote:bearhunter,
This dog according to the previous owner came from either WV or Michigan. I know there is a hell of a lot of difference and miles between the two. I am still researching.
Dam was night champ Maggie May Larson
Sire was grand night champ Warwick's Red willy
The ONEY and WILCOX dogs were the gransires / dams.
As I am primarily a big game hunter, would you recommend considering one line over another when I start to look for a stud? Assuming most of my dog's line is ONEY and WILCOX?
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Well I can only tell you whats worked for us.

HAve very little of the Wilcox. The Oney we have has crossed well with Sugar Creek and the older Hardtime(wouldnt recomend NOT going thru Rocky to get it if ya can,what we have used goes back to Speck without going thru Rocky for the most part,if ya use Rocky try and get it lined breed back a couple generations)Briar Creek has crossed well also.We have recently started crossing with Rooster Blood and are getting real good results,the oldest pups just turn 2,most started their first bear season(9 mo old)Out of 11 pups 9 are running and treeing well(several have treed their own bear) 1 is dead(idiot owner) and the other doesnt get hunted.

orcatdog · Post by **orcatdog** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:29 pm

Sam,
Thanks for the info and time telling me a little bit about older lines and crosses you have found successful. I am eagerly learning more and more about English dogs. Not having too much luck on the west coast with stud dogs.
I have been reading a lot about the older Rooster blood and very interested.
Again thanks and be aware I will probably be asking you more questions.
Ryan

Bearhunter · Post by **Bearhunter** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:41 am

[quote="orcatdog"]
Again thanks and be aware I will probably be asking you more questions.
Ryan
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No problem,ask away if I dont know the answer I'll make something up :lol:

LOL

Tim Pittman · Post by **Tim Pittman** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:31 am

sent u pm

Nora Cook · Post by **Nora Cook** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:30 am

Ryan,

I thought I had seen that picture before. Nice to see you on board... I herd you did very well at that Field trail you went to....

Take care and talk to you latter.

OH there is not any Redtick breeders to speak of on the west coast. There is a hand full of people but most of there stock comes from the east parts..

orcatdog · Post by **orcatdog** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:32 pm

Nora,
Thanks! I did go to Eagle Mountain Utah for the UFH field trial on 4-5-08. Jenny ended up winning the "senior" division. My new Bendy redtick dog made it to the "Junior" finals.
Going to Elk Creek California next weekend. Hope to see some of the Prineville boys there.
I have talked to a couple people with registered dogs here and there. I want to see pics and pedigrees before I decide to breed her. Besides I really don't need any puppies right now - just looking down the road.
Take care

liontracker · Post by **liontracker** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:54 pm

Bearhunter, Sugar Creek huh ? Got any of that now or know of any ?

Bearhunter · Post by **Bearhunter** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:04 pm

liontracker wrote:Bearhunter, Sugar Creek huh ? Got any of that now or know of any ?

Buddy has some pretty heavy Sugar Creek.Not sure of when he is plannin on breeding the older gyp. Both my bear dogs(down on bear dogs right now)have it in their line.

liontracker · Post by **liontracker** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:13 pm

Which Buddy ? Just wondering how heavy.

Bearhunter · Post by **Bearhunter** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:12 pm

liontracker wrote:Which Buddy ? Just wondering how heavy.

Randy Rotruck www.saddlemtkennels.8m.com

liontracker · Post by **liontracker** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:11 pm

Are you talking Sugar Creek walker or Sugar Creek bluetick ?

Bearhunter · Post by **Bearhunter** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:51 pm

liontracker wrote:Are you talking Sugar Creek walker or Sugar Creek bluetick ?

Blue

Help with some English Breeding questions

Help with some English Breeding questions

Any recommendations?

Re: Any recommendations?

Thanks a ton

Re: Thanks a ton

Thanks