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Hello everyone! wanted to ask a little more about the blueticks hounds, that you can tell me her story? as they were created? as they hunt? which varieties are there? what are the best dogs for hunting trails cold? As they are brave? maybe ... are many questions, but I'm really interested in trying this breed of hounds.
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Marcos,

The general terminolgy of Registered Bluetick Coonhound covers a wide variation of dogs due to many diffeent strains within the breed being developed for different purposes over the period of time from the 1940's when they were actually calssified as a breed seperate from the English Coonhounds. You will find dogs as light as 45 pounds to those weighing close to 100 pounds and all carry the PR 7 Generation Registration by the United Kennel club as Registered Bluetick Coonhounds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetick_coonhound

is a good start and also Google up The Bluetick Breeders Association and if you can obtain a copy of their anual Bluebook you can see many of the strains that I have described within.


BREIF HISTORY
The Bluetick Coonhound is a fairly new dog breed. It was developed in the southern United States in the early 1900s, for the specific purpose of hunting raccoons and other small wild animals. Its ancestors include the Grand Bleu de Gascogne, the Staghound and other French hounds that were brought to America during the early days of colonization. Traders, dog dealers and other people traveling through isolated rural areas of the deep South could not help but notice those beautifully–voiced hound dogs, which contributed to most of the present Coonhound breeds. American hunters found the French hounds to be too slow on the tracking trail. However, when they crossed them with American hounds, they found that the offspring had better cold-nosed trailing abilities and improved endurance. (Having a “cold nose” refers to a dog’s ability to follow an old trail left by whatever animal is being pursued.) Combinations of French hounds, English Foxhounds, Bloodhounds and a number of American dogs of unknown ancestry led to today’s Bluetick Coonhound, which is now recognized as a breed in its own right.

In the early days of their development, different strains of Blueticks were known by the various geographical regions where they were bred and lived. The most well-known of these were the Ozark Mountain, Sugar Creek, Old Line, Smokey River and Bugle lines. The Bluetick Coonhound was first registered by the United Kennel Club (UKC) under the name “English Coonhound”. However, Bluetick breeders wanted to retain and promote the larger size, colder nose and slower hunting style of their dogs, rather than lumping them together with the hotter-nosed, fleeter and less stoic English hounds. In 1945, American Bluetick breeders formally rejected the UKC’s “English Coonhound” designation and directed their efforts toward establishing their breed as the Bluetick Coonhound, for once and for all. The United Kennel Club officially recognized the Bluetick Coonhound as an independent breed in 1946. For a short time after that, Coonhound puppies with blue ticking were called Blueticks, and those with red ticking were called English Coonhounds. This practice stopped as each different variety of Coonhound gained its own staunch supporters and became independently recognized as separate breeds. In 2009, the American Kennel Club accepted the Bluetick Coonhound for full registration as a member of its Hound Group.
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Mike, thank you very much for the information, is very interesting. would like to ask you another question, these dogs when they go in cold trails, which are often bark?
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Marcos,

As a general rule Blueticks are open trailing type hounds. this means that upon crossing a line or track they will give voice or strike as American hunters call it. They will then determine the direction of the desired animals travel and attempt to trail it up. Most of the time they amound of voice they give while trailing is determined by the condition of the track. More voice should the track be better and they can follow faster and less voice if the track is faint or cold and they have to work out losses in the line at times. Many hunters can tell almost excactly what the dog is doing by the amound of voice he gives and also the tone of the voice the dog uses. Bluetick are noted as having the best of all trail mouthes and many of them have a long quivering bawl mouth while trailing that switches over to a hard pounding cop or short bawl once they animal bays or trees, therefore making it very easy for the hunter to follow.


My greatest ever Bluetick was a male out of Elbert Vaughn's Bawler dog and out of an Ark. Valley Blue female. His voice would literally send chills up and down your spine as he trailed thru the woodlands on frosty autumn nights. When you heard his long quivering bawl die into a long locate bawl he was treed, and then came the heavy jack hammer chop and he would not pull. I skined a lot of fur that Old Blue Earl caught for me back in the 70's.
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Hi Mike!
  I think I understand ... I'm asking because on blueticks if not adapt to my team blue Griffons, here in my area we hunt ancient traces, often to ensure they are not far from the bound and when we believe that the trail is good release them on the trail ... here I leave a video of a workout with my lead dog and a puppy on an old trail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMJ-C93Xw5s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r205zHYq1o8
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If I may ask, what type of critter were the dogs trailing? Nice looking country!
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Now that's a beautiful squall ball track voice your blue griffon`s have! Its settled I have to get one of them!

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mondomuttruner wrote:If I may ask, what type of critter were the dogs trailing? Nice looking country!
these videos are training dogs with boar ... the first video is a very old trail
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Henefer-hound-hunter wrote:Now that's a beautiful squall ball track voice your blue griffon`s have! Its settled I have to get one of them!

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hello! I would be happy to help you find some good Grf.blue with good ancestors
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Marcos,


It is nice to see others from different parts of the world enjoying running the hounds. Nice looking hunting ground also!


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slowandeasy wrote:Marcos,


It is nice to see others from different parts of the world enjoying running the hounds. Nice looking hunting ground also!


Take care, Willie

thank you very much! the truth is that I feel the same way, I like to meet and chat with hunters from across the world ... besides I really like american hounds
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How old is a "very old" track? A week, a day, an hour?
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cobalt wrote:How old is a "very old" track? A week, a day, an hour?
if you are referring to more than 24 hours would be "too old"? dogs can here traces of 24 or more hours, but we look for traces of less, maybe the night before, in this case I would say it has more than 12 hours
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saying "Very old Trace" is relative, being practical, a trail of more than 24 hours in Europe is meaningless hunt, in these traces usually train with the dogs, but when is the real hunting 12 hours, maybe more ... but not much more
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