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Re: Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:27 pm
by liontracker
Mike Leonard wrote:When you see one that exceed the best of the old strain hound today on 100% dirt bare ground you let me know cuz I will go check it out.



...you can be the co-pilot, I'll drive and by the fuel. The hunt is on...

Re: Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:32 pm
by liontracker
From another thread:

Bluewalkerlionhound Post subject: Re: Dry ground lion dogs.Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:23 am
Silent Mouth
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:21 am
Posts: 37
Location: Hyde Park Utah

just wait and watch...when ol'ml puts his jim zumbo stamp on those swliondogs you better have check in the mail yesterday.



A blank check is on the way!LOL

Re: Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:10 pm
by Big Mike
That little cameron female of Tom and Jeff's is a nice lion dog and does well in the dirt. Gritty little shit too, she just wouldnt give that tom no space on the rock, kept getting closer and closer until wham, think the shocking and tracking collar saved her that day. Made a great video. I offered to buy the dog for $200.00 too but for some reason Tom and Jeff told me to go pound sand! Go figure!!

Have a few friends that have tried the Camerons and all said they made good dogs but werent quite up to par for the real cold dry ground trailing compared to some of the old lines of mixed bred muts.

I have a registered female with cameron breeding(half i think) she's just coming too and doing a fine job but she needs another year under her belt before i can give her an honest evaluation.

Re: Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:13 pm
by Big Mike
There was also a guy on this site that was selling a cameron bred dog that was a good dirt lion dog out of AZ. He posted a nice video of her trailing if I remember right

Re: Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:06 pm
by liontracker
So that makes 6 - any more out there?

Re: Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:08 pm
by coldnosed1976
I raised the Cameron dogs for a lot of years and had alot of good dogs I bred back anfd forth with Jim Bundrick and I the years that we raised them I can name the dog I know made dirt dog Buckshot,Bo,Sagundo,Buck,Glory were the only one I know of There were probally more but few and far between They made good snow dogs and bear dog but if you want dirt dogs look elsewhere.

Re: Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:52 pm
by killroy
We have a five year old registered bluetick male.He is not Cameron bred but I am really happy with his performance on Dryground. He is my best dog right now. He will trail all day in the dirt. He is really good at locating and trees really hard. He was bred this spring to a daughter of samson. A female that Jeff Allen took bear hunting in CA., turned out to be one heck of a bear dog. Dean Lyman uses her for a rig dog now. If anyone is interested in a Bluetick Walker cross pup we have a couple left.

Re: Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:05 pm
by trashmaster
I think Larry Hindrex has some blue dogs not sure of the breeding in them other than his own. Also the Halcombs in Klondyke AZ have several blue dogs and some are that darker blue you see in the cameron bred blueticks.

Re: Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:37 pm
by Mike Leonard
I can tell you with conviction that none of Larry Hendrix nor Richard and Karen's dogs have any, ANY, Cameron in them. These are a tightly bred family of bare ground lion dogs and they are pretty well guarded.

Re: Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:32 am
by Ike
So when Hal brought one of Hendrex's hounds up here to breed to his bitches a couple years back and offered me a pup it would have been the real deal Mike? I told Hal no thanks cause there is a limit to the hounds that I'm gonna raise and train in the coming years, and if I take on another pup it will from my own breeding...............It sounds like Hendrex has been there and about done it all, and I would have been proud to have a dog from his blood if I were just starting out rather than winding up.

ike :wink:

Re: Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:37 am
by Jeff Eberle
I've know Del for over 20yrs And don't ever remember him calling them dry ground dogs. Just look were he lived and hunted maybe a snow dog.

Re: Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:49 am
by rockman
hey tim my scooby dog was awsome in the dirt. . .hey was a full cameron then he got stolen from me. . .

sonny

Re: Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:13 am
by trashmaster
Mike, i wasnt insisting they were Camerons just know they have some blue dogs thats all. And yes they are guarded and even if you get a pup from them the chance is high that it will be fixed before you get it. Hendrix will sell dogs but not on the budget most of us have. Man Ike, I turn down those Hindrex bred pups all the time. Warner Glenn and Jack childs tossed a few pups my way too but figured none of them would be good for my kennels. Just not cold nosed enough for my liking. :beer :beer :beer :beer

Re: Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:22 am
by dandavidson
All I know is this makes for some really good reading!!!

Dan D

Ps I am still hoping to get one of your dogs Dennis!

Re: Pure Camerons as Dryground Lion Hounds?

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:12 am
by Mike Leonard
Larry Hendrix is one of the best lion hunters living today. He is an educated man but got tired of polotics and all the crap that goes with working for the Govt. years back. He sort of fell out and has done nothing but live in camp and hunt lions for decades. He is a dog man second to none and very picky about his dogs. The strain he has is similar if not very closely related to all of the better dry ground old strains in Arizona, and New Mexico.

Ike it might have been a good deal to grab a pup out of that female. Our boy Benny G who is cooling his heels right now in winter-time weather in Africa is very tight with Larry and he knows that female. when he gets back if the lions don't eat him or the Tse Tse flies don't get him he can illuminate us on her. Almost all the hounds used for year round lion hunting in Arizona trace to lines quite similar to Larry's dogs.