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I heard of a guy but do not know if it is true that would call in the middle of the night, Holidays, early in the morning and report poaching in hard to reach area's.

Get badge number and name,send formal complaint via certified letter and have witness sign if possible.

If their are several witnesses have each one send separate certified letters.

Say little or even less without legal counsel.

There should be a couple more episodes with him on it, there were more people who signed the permission slip. They stopped everyone with a dog box.

I tuned in late to one of the shows last night and it showed a warden handcuffing some mexicans that he thought were working marijuana in the woods.. he told them he was handcuffing them because there were too many of them and that he was going to search their car and he didn't want them to get squirrely ..?? How can they do that?? If they handcuffed me they better arrest me..

Coyboyvon,
Those Mexicans he handcuffed were smoking dope and throwing their beer bottles in the lake. One of which was on probation for resisting arrest.

How come they didn't arrest them?

he wants to follow them to their weed grow.

i missed the first 5 min and didnt see the part with him cutting off the bear feet , did he tag the bear that he got the feet off of ? as for the rest of the show it was typical california game warden, I GOT A BADGE I CAN DO WHAT I WANT BS.
this is a long video but if your gonna deal with cops i sujest you watch it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik

Right, wrong or what ever they should have left that gall in the woods. No need to bring it out, first thing we do when we take a bear and gut it is to put the boot to it (the gall). DFG already thinks most hound hunters are outlaws why give them any fuel. I hated the way that show made hound hunters look and you will see the antis are going to use that show as ammo against us. Dont give them any ammo they dont need the help.

They said it was a bear taken under a nusciance premit

what pissed me off the most is the mexican admitted to having marajuna and being on probation and he let him go, the officer obvisuly knew they were illegal he even said they were "straight outta mexico". why didnt he turn them over to immigration ? didnt that officer have to swear to uphold the law ? as for the gallblatter if i kill the bear its my f*****g gallblatter and weather i take it or leave it is my bisnuess, i agree they dont need any incidents to use agenst us but i was taught a closed mouth dont get fed , if your not willing to stand up for your rights you wont have any

Yes by all means stand up for your rights at all times. I didnt not see any of those guys on that show standing up for there or our rights. If you have nothing to hide and you know it when the wardens talk to you tell them so. You bring up the laws and make them tell you how they fell your not following them. By standing around looking at each other and blaming the other guys your not standing up for shit all you are doing is casting a poor light on all bear hunters. As for the gall I have said how I feel about it already. I have never had a use for one to leave to woods and it wouldnt leave the woods on any bear that my dogs treed. All I can see that comes from them is a tool to help them ban running bears with hounds here in California that is all.

dont know who keeps telling you folks fish and game has the right to search your truck whenever they want to is wrong they do not have more power than a sherrif they do this crap and you let them 'learn your rights spend some money talk to an attorney . i have if your dumb enough to let them buffolo you you got what you deserve not trying to start a ps match but i've heard this to much get out of your truck lock it put your keys on the hood and tell them no . they will try to intimadate you stand your ground tell them to get a warrant youve got all day understand the warrant must state what they are looking for . for those of you that dissagree with me to bad they dont look in my truck , i can be just as big of an ahole as they can

I got this off of Law Enforcement Legal Update. The part about hunters giving up thier right to privacy is a US Supreme court decision and was regarding search of a vehicle. I will keep looking to see if I can find the exact case.
There is case law that refers to the regulation of hunting and fishing as having relaxed search and seizure standards due to the fact that they are "highly regulated" activities, and that requiring warrants would make it impossible to effectively implement hunting and fishing laws. But the case law is very sparse:

People v. Harbor Hut Restaurant (1983) 147 Cal.App.3rd 1151; upholding the warrantless inspection of a restaurant under the theory that "fishing" is a "highly regulated business."

Betchard v. Dept. of Fish and Game (1984) 158 Cal.App.3rd 1104, upheld the routine and warrantless inspections of plaintiff's agricultural rangeland upon which deer hunting was often done. But the court noted that the relaxed standards were due to the fact that the areas entered were "open fields" and the intrusion into the plaintiff's privacy rights was minimal.

The court also noted that a hunter has given up a certain amount of his or her privacy rights: "Hunters are required to be licensed. By choosing to engage in this highly regulated activity, there is a fundamental premise that there is an implied consent to effective supervision and inspection as directed by statute." (p. 1110.)

People v. Perez (1996) 51 Cal.App.4th 1168, upheld a highway checkpoint used to implement hunting regulations.

As far as leaving the gall bladder in the woods I alway did. After seeing the way Boyd treated my friends and the way the show portrayed houndsmen I will bring it with me. It is my proprty and Fish n Game can stick it. They are not our friends and we can not change their mind about us.

I was looking forward to watching the series just to see what they would show...well I'm not sure if I should say I was disappointed or just not suprised at all. I had several people that knew a little about the show being filmed tell me that it did not make hounddoggers look bad...bullshit...and I hope they read that. The one on pig hunting goes so far as to claim that pig hunting with dogs is cruel.There is also caption on the website with the bear on the dog box that says something like ' a lifeless bear in a hunters truck'.
Well I have no use for gall bladders or those that kill for/sell them but I also have no use for being profiled, and thats all this show is basically doing is profiling. I believe that profiling is illegal...but maybe we'd have to ask the ACLU to clear that one up?
Yes, the gall bladder is your property but seriously does anyone on here know any non-asian person that actually uses them for something? I'm native and we use most parts but that friggin gall bladder gets thrown as far as I can chuck it.
Is it just me or does that gall bladder almost look suspiciously like the actual (urine) bladder??? That would certainly be a faux pas on all accounts.
I was curious why more asian violators were not shown, my husband said 'well because they don't want to be seen as being racist'...hmmmm, so they can profile houndsmen as dirtbags but not show the 5 billion asian violators cause someone might complain...wow! Makes sense to me!
As far as CADFG well I guess I'm striking out on all accounts, Indian (bad!), falconer (bad!), houndsman (bad!)...wow, everything I love or am, guess I better go hook up that garden hose up to the exhaust pipe cause I give up

If this show is the only thing that a non-hound hunter ever sees that depicts hunting with dogs, well they will certainly want to see it outlawed. They never show people doing the right thing, its the 'sexy' dirt that sells.

HSUS says they will have hounding on the ballot in 2012, I bet they are so happy with this show they will probably donate another few thousand dollars that they had laying around to CADFG.


I guess this old indian will just keep praying for the apocalypse in the meantime...

i put in a call to ca dfg central district today and flat out asked them if they had more rights than a sheriff or highway patrol they said yes , i asked if they could search my person or my vehicle with out a warrant they said yes all they need is probable cause so i asked them to define probable cause and they said its basically to the officers discretion if he thinks he can find something but he has to suspect you of a crime for example he hears a shot on private land and 10 min later you walk out of the woods with blood on your pants. the rest of the questions they couldent answer and they are suppose to have a superior officer call me back tomorrow so if anyone has any questions you would like me to ask them feel free to pm them to me, i will update when i hear from them