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Re: drahthaar for bear

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:27 am
by BoarHunter1
Folks may enjoy these too.

Tracking game in Africa. Retrieving Seals in Iceland, Baying up boar or working bear in Russia.



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Dog has Leap
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Re: drahthaar for bear

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:52 am
by BoarHunter1
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Good looking representative of the breed
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Re: drahthaar for bear

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:56 pm
by duke7581
Boarhunter, do u know the guy in NC that uses his DD an jags on boar?

Re: drahthaar for bear

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:41 pm
by tmalone
very nice pics!!!!!! thanks for sharing

Re: drahthaar for bear

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:37 pm
by duke7581
boarhunter are those pics of your dogs if so or not can u send me more to my email thanks. dozer7581@gmail.com and if so whats the breeding. we didnt getta pig lots of sign but they had moved out. thanks Jim

Re: drahthaar for bear

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:59 am
by BoarHunter1
DDs Proving themselves in Africa..

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Dead Game baying
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Glad you all liked the photos

Re: drahthaar for bear

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:02 am
by houndcrazy93
if i ever start hunting birds, i will deffentally be gettiong one of these. that way i could still run them with my hounds. they look like a great hunting dog. i wonder how they would be with some hound breed into them, for a colder nose, and what not

Re: drahthaar for bear

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:32 pm
by Kyle
This one was mine. :D
Kyle

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Re: drahthaar for bear

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:45 am
by kirpa
In Finland they have mix our finnish hound and german pointers. One litter was called black demons, because they usually tend to be black using drahthaar and gritty as hell. Speed is the thing what you get using pointers, but pups may be totally silent runners. That is from first generation, but im not sure what happened on next generation.

Here is a short video where one is used on hare hunting.
http://www.videoita.fi/video.php?id=275

Re: drahthaar for bear

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:32 pm
by BoarHunter1
Heres some video of Drahthaars on Game.

1. Catching a Russian Boar with a Laika-Russian Hunting dog
2. Hunting Hares
3. Baying a Boar
4. Attacking Cats
5. Fetching Ducks, Pointing and Killing/Retrieving Nutria from Swamp


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIXdCduXUN4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=365kHQYHdY4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqeWFmhy-ew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTbeJwfe ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGBYqQH2DoU




Hope you all enjoy.
Great Photo Kyle.


PS.
Please dont consider crossing Drahthaars.
Just find grittier hounds. The crosses have less nose than hounds and less grit and versatility of DDs.

Re: drahthaar for bear

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:21 pm
by Sir Buckwheat
I've got a Pudelpointer and a Wirehair in my kennel right now. Both are coon and cat killing machines. I haven't taken them out just hunting coon yet but plan to this spring with my BMC pup. All their kills are critters we've come on while bird hunting or training. I had a DD for a few years but preffered the PP for what I like to do. They are good dogs but I found the Pudelpointer (PP) to be more trainable and to have a better temperment with every bit as much grit. I've trained several DD's since and still feel that way. That said they are great dogs and I don't think a guy could go wrong with one, we all have our own opinions though. I have several friends that run DD's and swear by them. They all catch and kill fox and coyote with them every year. I think any of the versatile breeds will work if you train them right and get the right line of dog. The DK (German registered Shorthair) is a great breed as well. I had a little GSP that was 35lbs soaking wet and he was one of the grittiest fur dogs I've ever seen. I watched him tangle with and kill a 40lb coon and took out a 50 indian dog that was coming after me while training one day, I'd left my pistol at the truck. Damndest thing I've ever seen!

If you're wanting a DD for hunting feather and fur make sure you find a breeder that breeds for that. They all have standards they have to meet but some breeders mainly hunt upland, or waterfowl with them. Look for a breeder that uses theres for fur as well to make sure you get what you're wanting.

Sorry for the lengthy reply. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. I know of a few good DD breeders that hunt fur with their dogs. Be prepared to loosen your wallet a bit though, their not cheap!

Re: drahthaar for bear

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:27 pm
by BoarHunter1

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I've got a Pudelpointer and a Wirehair in my kennel right now. Both are coon and cat killing machines. I haven't taken them out just hunting coon yet but plan to this spring with my BMC pup. I had a DD for a few years but preffered the PP for what I like to do. They are good dogs but I found the Pudelpointer (PP) to be more trainable and to have a better temperment with every bit as much grit.



I looked into PPs 10+ years ago.
I didnt like the coat variations, their price, their lack of grit-its not tested and frowned on by the breeders today in Navhda-the founder of the PP breed in America rejects doing a vermin test-its obvious theyre taking the PP in the direction of a field dog.

Almost all PPs are used exclusively for upland with some being used for waterfowl. Ive yet to see one with any big game, deer or bear or hog.

PPs are not that popular in their own native country, whereas the DD is, by a huge percentage, over 50%, and the game hunted is almost all big game. That tells me something about grit and trainability, and which breed is preferred.


I've trained several DD's since and still feel that way.

You dont own any, but trained several?
Most DD guys I know train with each other, as their VDD testing is exclusive, so I have my doubts...


That said they are great dogs and I don't think a guy could go wrong with one, we all have our own opinions though.

Golly, make up your mind, they are great dogs, youu couldnt go wrong, or you could and they are not...which is it?


I had a little GSP that was 35lbs soaking wet and he was one of the grittiest fur dogs I've ever seen. I watched him tangle with and kill a 40lb coon and took out a 50 indian dog that was coming after me while training one day, I'd left my pistol at the truck. Damndest thing I've ever seen!

My experience was different with over half a dozen GSPs, they were chasers, not closers, they did not have near the grit, but were very good upland dogs, but not the game recovery dogs the DDs are however, and not calm or as versatile.


If you're wanting a DD for hunting feather and fur make sure you find a breeder that breeds for that. They all have standards they have to meet but some breeders mainly hunt upland, or waterfowl with them. Look for a breeder that uses theres for fur as well to make sure you get what you're wanting.


Every DD that is Bred, male and female Must killed a Fanged Varmit.
Every DD that is bred, Must complete fur drags, and most Blood work.
Every DD that is bred is judged on tracking on wild game in vjp and/or HZP Armbruster.
None of this is true for the PP bred in America today. That is alot more of a crap shoot.
The DD is generally a better tracker and more gritty than all the versatiles, this is commonly accepted.

I would be comfortable buying and expecting a DD to be used on Any game I wish to hunt it on, regardless of breeder.
A few phone calls is all it would take me to find what I wanted-for big game, thats a dog with smarts and grit, which is not in rare supply in DDs..


DDs are priced today from $650 up to $1500.
PPs generally run over $1000 consistently. PPs have a Smaller gene pool, smaller popularity, more a strain on the wallet and are not proven or used as readily on various game as the DD here in America..

You admit your a PP and GWP owner, are not that fond of the DD for Your hunting, but you can 'extend your services' to help buyers find the right DD, a breed you dont own, or a breed club you're not a member to?

Re: drahthaar for bear

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:53 pm
by BoarHunter1
To illustrate my point, these hogs and bear, were not hunted with DDs bred by VDD breeders that focus on fur, but on balance and versatility.

A testiment to the VDD Breeding program.

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Re: drahthaar for bear

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:44 am
by duke7581

Re: drahthaar for bear

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:36 pm
by BoarHunter1
Heres Video of a US Bred VDD Drahthaar & Jagd, pressuring and baying a boar.
Nice job Chris...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eukMoyfiPoQ





Video of DDs Catching a Hog from a Trap.
Have to get them out and relocate them somehow..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi8ab6or1Kg