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briarpatch wrote:Thomas, I figure your old lady would turn your nose blue alright, but it would NOT be from "completing the circuit"!

briarpatch

pete richardson wrote:its a real good question- ? lol


ive seen dogs called cold nosed that just couldnt run a track fast-- all tracks cold- / slow-

they gives cold nosed dogs a bad rep-lol - beware if dog never runs anthing but coooollld tracks- -



there are dogs with no cold trail at all in them -probably nothing you can do to make coldtrailers out of them ,its not their fault-

somebody bred them that way - lol they can probably smoke a hot one in perfect conditions-- and make you wished you stayed home when its not -

shouldnt have wait 3-4 years for a dog to start coldtrailing -lol -dogs given a chance to coldtrail at young age will get better -most just dont get that chance-

one thing im guilty of and everybody i know is --use number 1 till hes gone, then number 2 gets instant promotion- lol

-#2 might never be the same as they would have been if you given them lots of experience when young

there are different kinds of dogs that i thought were cold nosed - lol i lost a dog this winter that would strike a track a long ways from the truck seen her go farther than u might belive - start walkin a track - she would bark on that track like it was red hot -- and just walk--- as soon as she could---run full speed ---if made a loss--back to a walk-sometimes switch from run to walk , over and over-- remember ,, she struck that track off the truck -
is she cold nosed ? - or just triggered to bark real easy -- i think a little bit of both - lol she only had two speeds --full bore and barely movin lol
have had hounds 30 years - only dog ive ever seen exactly like this- i want another one - lol
ive seen a dog move a track - make pretty decent progress- but kinda slow - the main reason we used him to start was because he was straight and barked good - easy to get pack going with - had several dogs like that over the years - pretty good start dogs but sometimes seems to me that they are a little slow to pick their heads up and flat out run--just a little too happy to be coldtrailing -

on an average track ive seen another dog come off the truck and just blow by him like he was dragging an anchor- - so which one is cold nose ??

one time we were hunting two brothers -- one would definatley strike a very old track off the truck---he couldnt always start them- take his brother down there and very often hed sort it out in seconds and be gone- make it look easy-- if first dog didnt show it was old-- i wouldnt have known it lol
if first dog didnt strike it- id never had known it was there either


have seen some dogs could run an reasonably fresh track -- fast on ice or cold weather or whatever , rough conditions -, doesnt mean that they wil cold trail ,seem to have a good nose -


if i could just type a hound up - he would cold tail up very old track- always go the rite direction -start slow and move it faster and faster- make the jump and fly- lol

actually have seen/heard that happen a few times- lol not as much as id like -
i want them as cold nosed as i can get- as long as they would rather run than cold trail - -- if a dog cold trails a little too much--- teach him to come when called- --- call him off those tracks hes not moving- - you can influence them a little that way - MAYBE

Pete, the dog ya said got gone yaunder then sruck way out/ hes a compitition bred up gadget dog, and probably wanted too get solo treed up .most likely he would do a little blowen under the tree too ?!

david wrote:The coldest nosed bobcat dog I ever had, I didn't even know she had a cold nose at all until she was almost 2. Still a little puzzled at how I did not figure that out any earlier. I think she grew into her nose with use and practice.

onalimb wrote:Desire and nose are tied together, you can have one without a bunch of the other and still get it done, but if you lack both, there's no point. A dog that does not have a good nose compared to others, but has a high desire to catch, will grind on it to the best of their abilities. A dog with a genetic cold nose, that is afraid to catch it, or always a me too dog,might not do you any good at all. I think those two traits are tied together like I said, but I also think they are mistaken for eachother quite often.

pete richardson wrote:

Pete, the dog ya said got gone yaunder then sruck way out/ hes a compitition bred up gadget dog, and probably wanted too get solo treed up .most likely he would do a little blowen under the tree too ?!

oooooooo, that hurts -


-- dont think so- if she was ,luckiest dog ever born-- lol


she came off the truck ,,she knew where she was going -- just ran bear and a few cats with her -- she would really grub a cat track in snow-


None of us knows exactly what ya got there we havent hunted with her, but I guess you know her every hair on her head and what she is or isent and thats good enoughf for me budd ! And ya know they tree lay up coon,bobcat,mtn. lion, and bear if their finished and got brains,nose and learned experiences too finish out into a top hound ! I`ve see Boone Shockleys dogs yrs ago, strike from insidethe dog box in the summer time on cat,with 3 inches of red clay dust in the turn of the rd. he let em out they winded and fell off the road and barked within 200 ft of the road treedup or piped in a clulvert and had bobcats both times/no track no trail just winded struck and got out from inside the dog box of his 1/2 cab pickup beded scout and fell treed up and walaha there was the cat treed up or in the pipe under the ground high an dry from the stream not folwen through the oipe level on under the roadway.
Also ole Curby Cassellberry treed 3 big bear up the same tree on a lay up wind strike and close by the road/ all 3 was adult bore bear over 300 lbers too! That was up at orlines Ca.
I roaded my 2 plott pups & 1 Calhound x Plott male up out of Guinda Ca. back in 63 and they went winding off the dirt road and just started treeing up on a wild apple tree on a flatt where a house had once earler stood I`msure and me and Happy & Lucky Green got outof my truck and walked over too the tree and I was curriouse cause my 2 plott pups was12 months old and was bugger barken treed up ? And itwas the very first time my Calhound x Plott hound at 15 months old treed up and he had a long beautifull horn dieing bawll on the tree. About 12 ft from the tree we hurd a cathudd and the rie andwild weat pasture grasses movements sounded/ and what ever it was brushed the pants leggof lucky green as it raced by him. The 3 dogs flew on by us like shot out of a cannon and wasgone overtheridge. We talked about it and went back too the dirt dusty augrd andsure nuff there wasfresh big lion pugg prints and my dog prints heading right accrost the rd and up the ridge and toped out. He must of been layed up waiting on a deertoo come too feed on the green apples in that tree !?













she was best strike dog that ive ever owned------because she would strike a runnable track so far from road --




she was more of a winding type dog --that would put her head down and realy grub-- if that makes any sense- i dont know what to compare it too cause only one i ever had like that -

one time when she was a pup -- had our best dogs down --just a big mess - - they split and seemed to run same circle over a few times -running backwards -i dont know -

-they came back on same track they went out on
and we loaded them -
this mutt started treeing --i figured she was just wrong side of some ponds in there - she had a bear treed --- i guess it was a layup bear

maybe your rite cecil - a go yonder, kick dirt in your face n get wooded bear dog -

I have never seen anything that stated if a dog can't run a track that is "X" number of hours old then it is a hot nosed dog, also if it can run a track that "X" hours to "Y" hours old then it is a medium nosed dog, or a cold nosed dog must be able to run atrack that is "Y" hours old or older.

if someone asked me what she was doing the answer was something like "uh... she's working a real cold track... uh, or possibly jumped... or wait a minute, uh...uh, she might be treed." She did sound different on a bay, at least.

when we have really dry or dry frozen snow and really low temps or wind, the tracks on top of the snow seem to almost get the smell blown out of them or not hold much scent at all.

"whats she doing now", I usually just reply "barking" LOL