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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:45 pm
by Melanie Hampton
Thanks Richie...

I have no idea about how good they are... they just had an easy time adjusting to that country.... Probably luck had more to do with it then anything ;)

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:51 pm
by justhoundin
You are welcome. Adjusting to certain country is a very big step so you need to give yourself some credit, any time a dog is taken out of there element it can take some time to adjust. I have seen some dogs come from florida that are SUPPOSE to be nice nice bear dogs but when they first get to utah they aint worth shooting, but once they adjust to the climate, ledges, and rock piles they seem to do just fine, so in my oppinion adjustment is huge.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:55 pm
by justhoundin
What I was meaning by giving yourself some credit is it takes a good commited hunter to get them through that kind of stuff as we all know it can be frustrating waiting for the adjustment..

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:20 am
by Yaak attack
Everyone that breeds bobcat dogs breeds for brains, nose and speed. Very few lines consistantly produce such dogs. The first thing I look for is a guy that hunts the snot out of his dogs and is a fine hunter himself. The ability to negotiate ledges, locate in big timber or handle a blowdown runner that may not touch the ground twice in an hour is a regional thing. I do not believe most dogs can easily adapt to drastic changes, but I know of a few that have. The notion that a dog would shine if you traveled and hunted wherever bobcats lurk do not seem plausable to me. Where I hunt bobcats they are not that hard to catch, at least not these days. But I remember all those bitter years the shortails made my dogs look like they were sneakin' into the retard cookies. Remember no matter where you go there are easy ones and then there are those that "make it personal".

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:05 am
by justhoundin
Yack attack,
I agree that there are some easy bobs to catch and that there are some hard ones, but I think if you want to consistantly catch the hard ones you better have some pretty nice fire power tied up in your yard. And I also agree with you 100% that it takes a very good, and dedicated hunter to go out and make a nice pack of hounds, if you aint wearin out boots you aint accomplishing much in this hound world (At least in my oppinion). Well everyone good luck in your upcoming hunting trips..

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:48 am
by Yaak attack
I know what you are talking about when you mentioned hunting 9 mile. I have bear hunted there as well as Range creek and I can tell you that country would give the bobcat a serios advantage. A dog that has not run in that kind of verticle country would need to learn to negotiate rims and cliffs before they would ever be able to catch much game. There are just so many places a dog can't "get up or down".

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:29 pm
by Ike
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:34 pm
by justhoundin
I will agree 100% with Ike, if there is anyone out there that knows that country it is Dennis and He has probably caught some of the toughest cats (and bears) that there is to catch. I have seen them bobers do some pretty crazy things to avoid getting caught, aside from the hounds having wings like Ike said they are impossible to catch with a hound. I wish you all well in all your hunts good luck...

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:16 pm
by Ike
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:19 pm
by IDpete
Justhoundin,just curious how many bobbers were you able to tree out in that country last season ?????????

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:32 am
by justhoundin
IDpete, I think I treed 2-3 bobers out there in the nine mile area, and a few in other area's I caught 6-7 total is all last year and killed three. Why do you ask?

Dennis, I will be breading this little female out of Echo and Ryan as soon as she comes in (and that should be any day) Jeff that buddy of mine in Salt Lake was wanting some pups so I said I would get her breed for him, he only want's one pup and the female back and I can have the rest to sale. I will breed Echo next spring and raise one more litter out of her then spay her, so she won't be having any pups any time soon, well spring isn't that far away as fast as time flys now days. I was thinking of breeding her sooner but I have plenty enough dogs right now so I decided to put that cross off for now. So for right now I will just have the one litter and see how that works out. Well I'll catch you guys later, have a good one.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:57 pm
by Ike
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:48 pm
by justhoundin
Ike, Oh I will not sell any of this stuff for less than that, if they are getting $500 bucks a pup for that stuff then I know for sure I will get that for these. To tell you the truth ( nothing against the rowdy dog) I would not trade 50 rowdey's for 1 echo or for any pups out of her for that matter. I know right now I could sell as many out of her as I want and not even keep one for myself. Well I am out of here man we will catch you later.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:50 pm
by justhoundin
I am going to breed to Rucus for one litter, and then take echo up to a male dog of Miles Stewart's for her last litter.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:17 pm
by Ike
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