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Re: Jumping out bobcats
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:34 am
by oneguy828
I was referring to the GPS system. Thanks for your bio though...
Re: Jumping out bobcats
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:42 am
by not color blind
oneguy828 wrote:I was referring to the GPS system. Thanks for your bio though...
lol
Re: Jumping out bobcats
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:13 am
by dwalton
oneguy828: It is amazing how one can read something into what is posted. The alpha tracking system is the best. The only thing I have against it is the time it takes to go to toning. The old tritronics systems were right there for correction. Like any tool it is up to the one that is running it. It is still breeding, training and willing to cull to be successful with the hounds and know when to do what. Dewey
Re: Jumping out bobcats
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:17 pm
by david
oneguy828 wrote:You think the alpha has made you a better cat hunter?
Oneguy you should have let Dewey's interpretation of your question alone. It made the question look very deep,challenging and intellectual.

I will answer for Dewey regarding if the Garmin makes the hunter.
I hunted with Dewey in the early 80's. There were no garmins and only a few rich guys were starting to use telemetry. I thought the same thing he quoted. I though he could take mamma's lap dog and catch a bobcat. And not only that, he could turn mamma's lap dog into a dependable cat dog. He operates on a completely different plane than I do, and probably most people do. Back then, he had two eyes. You would think that now that he has only one eye, I might be able to see as much as he sees. But he still sees things I miss. Back then, he did not need a Garmin to get him to a tree the dogs were having trouble locating on. We were already there.
But I am sure he would not want to give up his Garmin today, nor would he want to give up the improvements made in bobcat dogs over the last forty years. In both cases they make things a lot easier for old men like us.
I can only guess that the dogs he gravitates to will have nobs, gauges, adjustment screws, transmission coolers and valves that I wouldn't have a clue what to do with. I can also guess that they could be ruined by some one who is used to automatic dogs and turned one of the nobs in the wrong direction. But there are people reading this who know what to do with those dogs. Some of us wouldn't.
Like it or not, we as houndsmen have our own form of political correctness in the way we speak and do. Dewey sometimes does not follow our rules for political correctness, and some folks don't like him for that reason.
I marvel that he does, but I sure appreciate that he keeps coming back here when others like him are long gone, or would never show up in the first place.
Re: Jumping out bobcats
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:58 pm
by david
I thought of an example of Dewey's eyes that blew my mind back then. We walked out from his place into the foothills. The dogs started a track so we got to them. He said there's the cat. So I am looking for a cat. And he points to the ground which was covered with dead leaves. Covered except for a spot of soft ground about the size of my fingernail. And there in that earth was part of one toe print from the only part of that bobcat foot that missed the leaves.
The rest of the hunt, I was not watching the dogs, but watching Dewey.
Re: Jumping out bobcats
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:27 pm
by Trueblue
david wrote:
Like it or not, we as houndsmen have our own form of political correctness in the way we speak and do. Dewey sometimes does not follow our rules for political correctness, and some folks don't like him for that reason.
That was a polite way to say it David. Very politically correct of you.

I would go a step further though and say that it goes beyond political correctness and into the realm of social etiquette. It doesn't matter what associations you are talking about, some forms of poor social etiquette just display a lack of common courtesy and respect for others. Behaving and communicating in ways that is condescending to others while over elevating your self is not a good path for making friends and gaining respect among your peers. Kind of reminds me of old Ike. I'm sure you remember him. He was a very accomplished houndsman with a fine pack of dogs, problem was, he never let anyone forget it for a second. His ability to stroke his own ego was unrivaled and for that reason he didn't gain a whole lot of respect in the internet hound world. It's too bad because he was very good at what he does and had lots of good information to share but his lack of good social etiquette got in the way. I hope Dewey keeps posting and sharing his knowledge so that others can learn from him and maybe while he is doing that he could be listening as well, learning from others, and not just about hounds.
Re: Jumping out bobcats
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:45 pm
by david
I hope you can spend some time with him. That is how you will know if he is respectful of others or not. I know he has always gone way far out of his way in hopes of making my life a little better for me. I have seen him do the same for others as well. That is how I measure respect for others.
Re: Jumping out bobcats
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:50 pm
by david
And yes, I do miss Ike, and valued his knowledge. It is a loss to us and this board that he is not here. I think it is sad that we must practice a false humility in order to be acceptable. It is testimony to the smoke and mirrors required for popularity. As John Kennedy was told by his father, reality doesn't matter, only perception.

Re: Jumping out bobcats
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:46 pm
by Trueblue
david wrote:I hope you can spend some time with him. .
Well, I will probably never get that opportunity. The only perception of Dewey that I will ever have will be based on the way he conducts himself on this kind of social media. I guess there is a lesson or two in that as well. And, I agree with you. I would also condemn the practice of false humility. If it doesn't exist in your character and in your heart then pretending it does would be a sham.
Re: Jumping out bobcats
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:42 pm
by al baldwin
Spotting a cat track in a small piece of soil is one thing, that usually comes from experience hunting with hounds & trapping predators. I used to be amazed when my mentor could spot a small critter track from the vehicle in a traveled gravel going 30 mile an hour or so. Believe it or not, he help me learn to do that when my eyes were better, still can sometimes. However knowing a hound is trashing on their first bark is a whole different skill, one that I have never known anyone to predict & be positive.. I have hunted with a few in my younger days who made those type statements after hunting with them saw too many turn out to be incorrect. If a hunter is above all hunters in knowledge they do not usually have to tell others how great they are, folks already know it. Never hunted with Dewey, have had other knowledge hunters tell me when they hunted their dogs with Dewey & his dogs, he read what dogs were doing different from what they believed at times. Telling them how superior his dogs tracked, compared to their dogs. Dewey don/t doubt you are knowledgeable, just hard to believe you are as good as you think. Hopefully, you are. Good hunting Al
Re: Jumping out bobcats
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:08 pm
by mark
Spotted this one at 37 mph

Re: Jumping out bobcats
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:28 pm
by david
Trueblue wrote:david wrote:I hope you can spend some time with him. .
... I agree with you. I would also condemn the practice of false humility. If it doesn't exist in your character and in your heart then pretending it does would be a sham.
Don't you just wish everyone could be superior like you and me, True Blue, and have the true character quality of humility deep in their hearts like us?
But then what would we do when we needed to try and assault someone inferior to us on a public forum and try to instruct them toward true humility like what you and I have? Well, there wouldn't be any one for us to try and cut down to size.
It is a wonder to me how such an arrogant man like Dewey has never even once in all these years launched a personal attack on a public forum. We should pray that he could be humble like us so he could have the freedom to attack the character of other individuals on a public forum.
Re: Jumping out bobcats
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:40 pm
by fallriverwalker1
you have eyes like an eagle mark ,, your remarkable , hope that's humble enough, jim
Re: Jumping out bobcats
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:46 pm
by mark
Well, if we were all heroes there wouldnt be anyone to clap when we walked by. Lmao
Re: Jumping out bobcats
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:01 am
by twist
Here is a tip there is no one that knows everything regardless of what some think. There are always two ways to skin a cat! Andy