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We had an Airedale in the mid '90s when I was in my early teens in Oklahoma. He came from a guy that used to cross them on his coonhounds, said they were good dogs for fighting a coon in deep water. He was a family/yard dog as we only hunted bird dogs back then but was tougher than nails and loyal to our whole family. We lived out of town and had a lot of coyotes that would come close to the house. I remember numerous times when I would go out to feed dogs before school and Rip would be laid up under the porch with puncture wounds all over his back legs and his leather collar would have bite marks all over it. He would lay around sore as hell for a few days and then be fine and dandy. All me and dad could figure is that he liked to go fight coyotes at night. He got hit by a car one day and fractured his skull, took him to the vet stapled his head and he was fine within a few weeks. Don't know how he was for hunting but if I could find one like him I would have another. This thread brought back some fond memories of ol Rip. I will never forget that dog as long as I live. Thanks houndsnterriers for bringing back some good childhood memories.

Rick Anderson has a female for sale that is as close to the old standard as I've seen.

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This is from the book "The Ben Lilly Legend"

I think there are plenty of better options at this point. The show world takes its toll on the best of them.

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Hunted a few of them, one treed well,one fetched well, one killed well.

So I just found story's of the jagterrie being used for and was hoping anyone who had worked them could answer a few questions that has made me wonder them being used as bay dogs for hogs mountain lion and black Bears I have never had any experience with hogs and mountain lion​ just what I have read and I would think a dog that size would be killed the frist time it want after one. I have a uncle that bear hunts with his plots and the dogs​ have been cut and thowed around so I don't understand how one that's​ so small could do it

And this is the party that really makes me wonder and that is them being used for coyotes the most likely one I heard​ was a guy that used one on his trap line to track coyotes that pulled off a trap and hold it there a coyote in a trap on a drag I could believe but then there was a guy talking about running a jag with his coyote hounds and the Jag job was when the coyote bayed the Jag keeped it there . Then there was the store a guy told me of using a pair of jugs to catch and kill a coyote and said they did it by going under the coyote leg's and ripping the coyote stomach or neck open I was wondering does anyone think that even sounds possible

I've hunted with a few jags and they are a whole lot of dog in a twenty pound package. But as far as killing coyotes with them routinely hmmm not sure on that, a 35 pound male coyote is a bad matchup for a little jag not that certain ones couldn't do it but it would take a lot out of them and I don't think you would want to try it regularly. Most would def die trying though, most them dogs have no quit in them.

This dog weighed 95 pounds and could run well over 40 mph. He could jump in the back of an F-350 over the rails with a dead coyote in his mouth. All that being said I seen him a time or two struggle to hold down a big male coyote by himself. Fairy tales are best left in children's books.

Thats an awesome looking stag!

If jagdterriers were that size, no man nor beast would be safe.

We would be writing how they can jump over the rails of an f350 with a dead person in their mouth.

david wrote:If jagdterriers were that size, no man nor beast would be safe.

We would be writing how they can jump over the rails of an f350 with a dead person in their mouth.

That dog was the grandsire to the lil white gyp ya had, David.

Dan Edwards wrote:
That dog was the grandsire to the lil white gyp ya had, David.

She was the most athletic dog I have ever hunted with. Climbing up steep, nearly vertical rocks, with a hound blocking her way, she would just jump over him. There were some other things I saw her do that I would not have believed if I had not Seen it.

Just saying there is a reason jadgterriers don't have that much strength, size and agility. I hope they never do. It is the stuff nightmares are made of.

david wrote:

Dan Edwards wrote:
That dog was the grandsire to the lil white gyp ya had, David.

She was the most athletic dog I have ever hunted with. Climbing up steep, nearly vertical rocks, with a hound blocking her way, she would just jump over him. There were some other things I saw her do that I would not have believed if I had not Seen it.

Just saying there is a reason jadgterriers don't have that much strength, size and agility. I hope they never do. It is the stuff nightmares are made of.

And what's crazy is that I would not call her mother an athlete really in comparison. Descent hound that produced some descent hounds but definitely not an athlete like some others we have owned. When dogs get bigger a lot of the time it is very very difficult to keep that terrier type "drive".

Dan Edwards wrote:This dog weighed 95 pounds and could run well over 40 mph. He could jump in the back of an F-350 over the rails with a dead coyote in his mouth. All that being said I seen him a time or two struggle to hold down a big male coyote by himself. Fairy tales are best left in children's books.

A jagterrier might be the most superior dog pound for pound. It is still just a large lap dog. Good to hunt in numbers of at least two. They eat alot but are really low maintenance for people that live in a large city or have a small yard. The appeal of a hunting terrier is they are nearly accident proof, equal amounts of prey drive and kill drive. A bull terrier has 100 percent kill drive so it is worthless as a hunting dog, it will get hurt or attack some neighborhood dog turning you into a criminal.



When i was kid i seen our family bird dog "English setter mix" jump a fox in the grass. The fox ran up out of the field towards a hill as the dog chased it. I watched the fox run about twice as fast as the dog until it hit fence at the end of the field. It could not find a way thru the fence as the dog got closer, I was sure i was about to get me my first fox skin. When the fox got thru the fence it ran about 4 or 5 times faster than the dog over the hill and was gone. I guess i have always dismissed any chance a dog had at catching a fox or coyote.

Dan do you have a dog that can catch a coyote? If so it is Worth its weight in gold to farmers that cant seem to kill them regularly and consistently.

Red idiot , pretty sure you never hunted or even handled a gun , and you apparently don't know nothing about dogs and pretty sure know one gives a shit about you meaningless rantings .