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Makes sense Gary. I was watching that video of that bobcat killing that big rattle snake. the cat could leap and jump so quick with the short quick muscle twitch movement it would be like a real short tight muscled up athelete when you over excert them and run all the oxygen out of them they tie up in a big time charley horses.

Hope you ears wern't burning to much yesterday Shorty and I were running some roads checking for lion tracks but bears is all we could find anyway we got to talking about you and Phil.
Shorty brought me one of Phil's 250 Ackely Improved to try out only problem was the box of 25/284 didn't do us much good when we went to shoot it. LOL!

I hate to bust your bubble but those trashy coon dogs are gonna be a pain in the arse when the leaves come off this fall and you have less than half the tree canopy cover. Bobcat hunting w/ hounds in mine and your neck of the woods during the fall would be like trying to bear hunt w/ hounds in country w/out a tree for a bear to climb. If you do get one up you'll never even get close to seeing it and the next time it'll be in a hole. Most will just hole up anyway. Onalimb is close in his observations. Here's why, we have very few trees thick enough for a cat to get comfortable in. We also lack the towering style of trees of the west. If we had a high percentage of evergreens you'd at least stand a chance. We just don't. Daylight and some dogs that won't be bellied up blind on the tree will help on a few, very few. This has been tried.

I love that term (towering trees of the west). Hell I am in the southwest and most of th trees we have I can throw my hat over. The red woods and huge pines of the west are in the Pacific West or northwest. Out here they hole up too partner, and it takes a hell of a dog to run them on sandy baked clay soil with humidity running 20 or less percent. But occasioanly the gods will smile down and say let this dumb sob stand under a tree for a change. LOL!

trashy coondogs hmmm what about that .... .......................................
not been on in a few days been busy with work and working these hounds thanks for all the good advise guys I will be sure and keep yall posted on the progress I am going to give it my best shot adding a cur to the mix to help keep em in the tree my red dog trees lose im hoping a cur will help pull her on out well thanks guys

Ankle Express wrote:I hate to bust your bubble but those trashy coon dogs are gonna be a pain in the arse when the leaves come off this fall and you have less than half the tree canopy cover. Bobcat hunting w/ hounds in mine and your neck of the woods during the fall would be like trying to bear hunt w/ hounds in country w/out a tree for a bear to climb. If you do get one up you'll never even get close to seeing it and the next time it'll be in a hole. Most will just hole up anyway. Onalimb is close in his observations. Here's why, we have very few trees thick enough for a cat to get comfortable in. We also lack the towering style of trees of the west. If we had a high percentage of evergreens you'd at least stand a chance. We just don't. Daylight and some dogs that won't be bellied up blind on the tree will help on a few, very few. This has been tried.

yes...... absolutly right about the holes and the leaves, but there is ways around this, i'll be the first to say this and more than likely get shot in my sleep for saying it but, this cat game aint bear, and it aint coon,its totaly difrent, if you want to have fur in the truck at the end of the day you get it by the sweat of yer brow, you have to be a team member, those sobs that talk about how they turn ol Suzie loose and majicly they get a cat are few and far between, most fellas who turn loose on a cat and lean up agenst the truck are going to through very few in the truck at the end of the day, now a fella stands back and takes inventory on his assets and were the problems lie and you try to compensate , for me i just cheated, i run this WHOODOO for more years than is good for a mans sanity and i tried to learn about said varmint, so i put some heat down on the ground, some thing that makes that damn cat heave his chest for air when it trees, you can't let it make the run for the stronghold, it has to climb if you take its choises away,i also have been known to roll the little mothers out with 22-250 out were it don't know i'm comeing(if i can see them when the leaves are off),and if it does make the stronghold, a good stout chuckl headed jagdterrier will useuly drag the coward back into the day light,belive me i don't throw cats in the truck all that often but it aint cause i'm leaning, it can be done you just got to want it, and cat dogs come from the wierdest places,coondog stock included, so a fella wont know until he trys, and oh yes he will go threw dogs looking if he wants it

Mike
Shorty told me that he was going to pick a pup up from you. I wish him luck and hope that the snakes don't get him before he learns about them.

For some reason, sending the wrong ammo does not suprise me in the least. I love Phil like a brother and have gone a million miles with him but organization has never been his greatest asset.

I talked with him yesterday. He is mending from a little shoulder surgery, hope it heals before he reinjures it. It is tough to get him to slow down.

Have been trying to hunt these potlickers to keep them in some sort of shape but I think I am loosing. I have not had them on a bobcat in over two months and just can't find a track. I am going to have to change country and maybe find one that is blind and crippled.
Adios,
Gary