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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:24 pm
by Dan Edwards
I know the kid that owns them dogs pretty well. Them are squirrel bred "cur" dogs so fightin is not really in their arsenal. Being extremely fast and having the ability to catch game in a matter of minutes is though.
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:07 pm
by Mike Leonard
Well a good pair that can catch is all important, and I would really prefer they bay and hold or push to a tree. Sure saves tearing the heck out of them hides. this old cat might have taken a tree if it wans't for that bum leg.
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:25 pm
by Dan Edwards
That kid is probably the hardest hunter I have ever talked to. He is the kind that squirrel hunts all day treeing a dozen or better usually and then coon hunts at night and trees 3 or 4 then too. He manages to tree quite a few cats in between all that also. Them dogs are really not my style of cur per say but they get the job done for him thats for sure.
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:10 pm
by Charlie Burger
Did anybody happen to read the comment pages ?, holy freakin' intolerant, couldn't get mad, was laughing too hard. Some people I tell you.
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:13 pm
by Nolte
Who the hell has to worry about how much pressure a dog can put on a cat. I'm lucky if mine are in the same section as a fricken bobcat. After this weekend, miracle would probably be a better word.
There are two main components to being able to catch the majority of cats from my weekend warrior perspective. A dog that is filthy cold who can actually trail up a tough track and massive amounts of track speed/instincts whatever to get close to one. It's a damn rare to find a dog with both, because they are sort of conflicting characteristics for most dogs. Now to top that off you better have one that can locate like a mofo, cause it's my belief that most cats when lost are still right there close but the dogs can't find them. They aint' belly rubbin stinkin coon or bear, so a dog better bring it's A game to find them.
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:16 pm
by briarpatch
Nolte, your reply/post gets right to the heart of the matter in a very simple straight forward way. This is particularly true if you do not have snow or other very good conditions. I have never hunted with a dog that I considered tops in ALL areas. Seen dogs tree cats by themselves? Sure, but almost never the very difficult ones.
I am not saying that such dogs do not exist, just that I have never seen one in quite a few years of hunting. Hope all of you that truly believe that you have one really do and that he/she trees all they get after.
briarpatch
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:53 pm
by roscosrokons
From what I have experienced over the years is that one good dog can put more heat on a bobcat than several good dogs. It seems like one dog can get in the zone and just keep a steady pressure on a cat with minimal losses. If I run anymore than two dogs its basically for the fun of it because it hardly ever turns into a catch. It sure sounds like they are burning up the track but I think its just a bunch of circleing and babling going on. Ha! Ross
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:12 am
by Dan Edwards
Nolte, I can guarantee that them type dogs in that video DO NOT meet the requirements that you layed out. They of course are NOT bobcat dogs but they can tree cats. Like I said, they are squirrel dog bred curs. The track speed in them type dogs borders the unfathomable for most folks and their locating ability is second to none. As far as being terribley cold, I think we all know the answer to that, they are not. Them type dogs will not fool with anything even bordering warm. They are hot nosed dogs in all reality but thats what they have to be to hunt the style that they hunt.
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:12 am
by catdogs
Agree totally with nolte - one good solid dog thats fast, silent on track and got a good nose. Those are the best bobber dogs.