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Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:51 am
by liontracker
Might be in one of the 30 plus books he wrote?

Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:22 pm
by Brady Davis
Lots of pics online from the books he wrote but none of him yet....

Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:33 pm
by liontracker
Here is a pic of Bill and Scout. What color is that dog? Looks to be as white as the driven snow he sits on. I have seen old Bluetick/English peds that listed dogs that were white with black spots and ticks. In Harshmans book "Big N' Blue" he mentions white w/black also. Hummm?

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Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:31 pm
by Majestic Tree Hound
"Here Scout Come Boy"
Now if I can Get rid of those Red Ears ! Lol

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Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:01 pm
by Majestic Tree Hound
What I would really like to Know is What English Lines go back too "Ginger" and "Borders Raider" .. I believe that the right Cross of a GGS on a English Female may have very sim. outcomes as crossing on the Bluetick Lines and maybe better !!

Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:12 pm
by liontracker
The English boys in Michigan are all over it.

Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:38 pm
by Riverbottom
Leon Whitney was an interesting guy. This post has gone on for 20 pages about Bill Green and Bill is a worthwhile subject, but Leon Whitney was much more involved in dogs than Bill ever was. Leon was also a very complex and controversial person.

Leon did groundbreaking studies on dogs. Much of what we know as fact today came from his work. He wrote lots of books (including The Coonhunter's Handbook). Dog Psychology and How to Breed Dogs should be required reading for any houdsman. His writing was based on research he did himself over many years and using thousands of dogs.

At the same time Whitney was writing books about how to pick out and train your new puppy, he was trading letters with Hitler about eugenics. Whitney was the executive secretary of the American Eugenics Society. Leon believed that the same principles used for breeding dogs should be used for people, including culling the ones they felt were undesireable. We all know where that led to in Germany.

http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/20 ... -club.html

Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:54 pm
by liontracker
Eugenics...controversial...you bet.

From the net:

In his book The Case for Sterilization, Whitney argued that the U.S. needed to sterilize some 10 million of its own citizens and that the world would be better off if a quarter of the global population were neutered. Hitler requested a copy of Whitney's book, and wrote him a personal letter of admiration after reading it. In 1933, Whitney offered lavish praise of Hitler's eugenic programs in Margaret Sanger's Birth Control Review (deal with that, Gloria Steinem). He never renounced his support of the Third Reich's racial schemes.

Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:22 pm
by liontracker
Bow wrote:can any one come up with a photo of Dr. Leon Whitney ? i think i might have one of him but not sure.


Leon Whitney in center:

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Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:24 pm
by Bow
the photo i have he is a lot older but does kind of look like him. i need to find one of him when he was older.

Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:11 am
by Brady Davis
Sounds like a bit of a crack head...anyone who is in line with Hitlers idealogy is off....

Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:33 am
by Riverbottom
Eugenics was not considered a crack pot theory in the first two or three decades of the Twentieth Century.

In fact, it was considered a potentially powerful force for social good and such American luminaries as Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Emma Goldman, and Margaret Sanger embraced it, along with such British luminaries as Havelock Ellis, H. G. Wells, William Beveridge, John Maynard Keynes, Arthur Balfour and Winston Churchill.

In short, eugenics was not a thesis put out by bad people trying to do evil, but by misguided people trying to do good.


Kind of like Global Warming...

Find a copy of the book How to Breed Dogs and there is a good picture of Leon Whitney with one of his coonhounds in it. I'm headed where there is no internet for a while but if you haven't got a picture in a couple weeks I'll try to scan one for you.

Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:57 am
by Bow
thanks that would be good

Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 1:13 pm
by Riverbottom
Leon Whitney

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Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 1:30 pm
by Mike Leonard
Boy those are some nice prime coons there. that is a racey built high tan dog looks like he paid for his feed back in the day.