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I've treed a lion but not a bear yet with one dog. I'm sure it's only a matter of time...yes it can be done.

Just FYI make sure your hound's in good shape that bear is gonna make him work to say the least. Ol' smokey don't tree as fast as cat tail...

Robb

10-4 cobalt by readin all this stuff on here it sounds like i have some trainin to do....

BBGH I wana live in the cali you live in

cobalt wrote:but I try to listen to my races as best as I can and with the GPS it is pretty much of a certainty that it is the lead dog on a long run that catches up to the bear and most of the time the bear is up before the others get there.

of course the LEAD dog gets there first, thats why he is called the lead dog. but him getting there ahead of the rest of the pack dont mean he treed it by his self. IMO, treeing with one dog is when there is only one dog involved, not when its one dog a hundred yards ahead of a half dozen others.

What would you consider being an acceptable distance the lead dog would need to have to be a one dog catch, 200yds., 500yds., a mile? A half dozen dogs one hundred yards behind the lead dog is not the arguement I'm making. A dog treed for several minutes before others get there and were not even in hearing yet is what I'm talkin bout. Usually my dogs run together, but on a long race, maybe 3hrs. to 8hrs. usually there is a dog that gets out ahead for one reason or another(which can be any dog in my pack) and if you've hunted much, you'll know it gets harder for the dogs that are behind to catch up and the lead dog will get further and further ahead. If he/she trees, I would definitely say that dog treed the bear without help even if a hundred dogs show up 10 minutes later. Hope this clarifies your confusion.

Those long,running races tend to get a pack of dogs stretched out.Often times I have caught bears because of one dog that was 1/2 a mile in front of the rest.I guarantee those bears didn't tree because of those other 5 that were a drainage behind.Doesn't mean those other 5 wouldn't have eventually treed,they probably would,but those bears treed when they did because of one dog putting the heat on them.

Solo bear tree is one where no other dogs were involved. The dog either splits off or is put out by itself. Most guys don't intentionally do the second option for good reason.

Most bear that tree with one dog, aren't real tough bears. Just my opinion.

If you're really treeing the tough bears with one dog, let me know and I'll take a serious look at the dog. Heck I'd even let you sneak a bear or two out of my cooler in the process.

Nolte,have you ever had a dog that you intentionally hunted solo on bears ? I sold a blue dog last year when he was 9 that treed bears consistently by himself and not just the easy pop ups either.He started doing it when he was 3 and still did it when I sold him.Some dogs are damn good at it and a smart dog won't get their ass all chewed up in the process either.

Did you read in Cobalt's previous post that he had a dog that treed over 100 SOLO bears.I guarantee you that ain't no bullshit and it wasn't just the easy ones either.

Most tough bears won't tree with a pile of "good bear dogs" anyway. That's my opinion.
So I guess there is some speculation on my part that one dog trees a bear when there are others at the tree, but I'll give it to the dog if I feel it's deserving and that's also my opinion.
And I would also stick any one of my dogs on any bear without worry of it being killed even though it is possible. I find it highly unlikely in my experience except when it goes in a hole and I think it is more dangerous for multiple dogs in a hole-up situation than with one dog.

well if thats what yall call it, then yeah, all of our dogs have done it and not just treed but also bayed by their self on the ground (until the others got there). our woods are thicker than sht and most of the time you have to get within ten or fifteen feet of the bear just to see it. with the woods being as thick as they are here its hard for dogs to get away when the bear charges them. thats why we dont turn out just one or two dogs, you got to have enough to keep him busy watchin his ass so he dont grab dogs.

Nolte wrote:Solo bear tree is one where no other dogs were involved. The dog either splits off or is put out by itself. Most guys don't intentionally do the second option for good reason.

Most bear that tree with one dog, aren't real tough bears. Just my opinion.

If you're really treeing the tough bears with one dog, let me know and I'll take a serious look at the dog. Heck I'd even let you sneak a bear or two out of my cooler in the process.

i agree

i am going to have to agree with cobalt and trueblue on this one. I have a bluetick that i gaurantee that if you turn out by his self, he will put a bear in the tree by his self. i also belive that if you have a dog that puts a bear in the tree 10 to 15 minutes or so ahead of the rest of the dogs that you would have to say that that dog pretty much did it on his own, and would have done it regaurdless wether he was turned out by his self or turned out with 50 other hounds, because if he is that much further ahead of the other dogs the bear doesnt even have a clue that the rest of them are back there.

well then i think those races would sound like poop Listing to one dog do all the the work while the others are trying to catch up.I personaly like to hear a good pack of hounds working as a team it sounds so beautiful.

Think were getting a little stray from the tophic.

But think some of you not all of you are confuseing a dog getting credit for a catch but should be getting the vitabone for the locate.

What do you guys call it when you see on your garmin's, a pack staying together and it heats up real good and see one stay back, but all the others keep going. he or she stays put and you get there and theres bear?

radar wrote:well then i think those races would sound like poop Listing to one dog do all the the work while the others are trying to catch up.I personaly like to hear a good pack of hounds working as a team it sounds so beautiful.

Judging from your comments Radar I am assuming that you are making assumptions rather than speaking from experience when it comes to chasing bears.Is that correct ?

thats what it sounds like

Heres me and my two from last season and there was nothin solo about it there was five dogs on him and if you were to see it on your garmin you would have seen a team.How does my personal judgment of what something would sound like lack experiance?Like I said I like to hear a good pack not follow the leader, to each's his own