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Re: *GRAPHIC* DAMN WOLVES! (Not my dogs)

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:25 pm
by sky
Sorry to hear about your hounds. Nothing can ever replace the losse of a one good friend/ family member let alone three. We have the same issue with satins dog here. Kill every one of them you guys can. If i could make it down to help you guys i would be there!

Re: *GRAPHIC* DAMN WOLVES! (Not my dogs)

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:34 pm
by nuttybuddy
Well Red Nights, I sure am glad to her your not SKEERED .....say hi to Barney Frank for all us do nothings out here in the West.....nobody out here in the real world gives a pinch of shit about your opinions.

Re: *GRAPHIC* DAMN WOLVES! (Not my dogs)

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:07 am
by RedNights
I notice you didn't pm me your number nutty so you want to talk about someone who is chicken shit that's you buddy. Also it is funny you would compare me to barney frank. If you want to talk ignorance you are the pinnacle of ignorance. You dumb (beep) in case you didn't see my other post I said shoot the damn things in the guts and let em run off. I am far from some tree hugging liberal. So give me your number you pussy n well jaw jack and ill listen to all of your brilliant talking points your going to write your congressmen.

Re: *GRAPHIC* DAMN WOLVES! (Not my dogs)

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:09 am
by brushcreek
Hey thanks Marshall for explaining that for the slow ones. I guess I should have put a :roll: or some kind of clue. :lol:

Re: *GRAPHIC* DAMN WOLVES! (Not my dogs)

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:28 pm
by Jason Waterhouse
How horrible. Dam wolves.

Re: *GRAPHIC* DAMN WOLVES! (Not my dogs)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:11 am
by Brent Sinclair
dereel208 wrote:OKAY hound guys. I live and hunt in this region of IDAHO. Pratically my back yard of hunting as it was for Shane. This year we got a chance to make a dent in our problem and the IDFG isn't putting a qouta on them, so if we are really concerned about the future of Hound hunting in Idaho, this is our chance. The Anti's aint ever gonna stop. Nor will they ever run out of money. We should all be looking at this as, THE YEAR, to take back out hunting rights from these 4 Legged critters. Predator Calling, Snaring, etc! Don't be the guy sitting on the couch next spring wondering if other hunters took advantage of this opportunity. Be the guy out there making a dent, as far as I'm concerned we couldn't have enough guys out there working these damn things over this year. Get involved, get off the sidelines. Tell me the last time the American Hunter has ever been given a chance to right a wrong such as this?

Thanks
Dan


Seing photo's and hearing of someone loosing their hounds to wolves does not sit well with me.
Sorry for your loss Shane, it has to be tough on ya.
You fellas need to get everyone you know that has any interest in killing wolves , trapping,snaring calling and throw a few dollars in a pot and get in touch with a guy named Gordy Clausen.
gordy@trappergord.com
Not sure how it would work for him to come down your way,but this guy knows how to kill wolves and teaches a class that will give each and everyone that takes it a ton of information on killing wolves....
It would be the best $100 you "EVER" spent and you WILL kill wolves...
He's a master, I've trappen all my life and what I learned from his 2 day clinic sure helped me kill afew more than I would have last winter.
You have some of the best wolf lure I know of every time you let your ol hound cock his leg or squat ..... urine!!!!!
Where I unload my hounds alot of the time I am in wolf country, so I'll lay a couple traps out where the hounds mark a big tree and hang a bunch of snares....you'll even the score and feel damd good about it when you go to check things out and there's a couple hung up with your cable and another cowering behind the brush with an Alaska#9 hangin off his paw...
Don't wait , get all the info you can on snaring and tralpping wolves.
The guys putting out those DVD's are good and you can learn alot from those as well.
Ol Dan helped me catch this 110 lb male last Jan!!!!
Anyone having questions, I'd be more than glad to share what I have found that works for me here....wolves are wolves and they will make a misteak, let your hounds help even out the playin field...they can not resist stoppin where your ol hound just marked a tree!!!!

Good Luck

Re: *GRAPHIC* DAMN WOLVES! (Not my dogs)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:03 am
by not color blind
Brent Sinclair wrote:Anyone having questions, I'd be more than glad to share what I have found that works for me here....wolves are wolves and they will make a misteak, let your hounds help even out the playin field...they can not resist stoppin where your ol hound just marked a tree!!!!

Good Luck


Brent (or anyone else that knows), let everyone that can legally help control these critters, know what works best for you.

Re: *GRAPHIC* DAMN WOLVES! (Not my dogs)

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:05 pm
by dereel208
All wolf trapping classes in Idaho Clearwater region are filled, so if u call give them your name and number so they can contact u for the next classes. I believe there are going to be more due to the high level of interest!

Re: *GRAPHIC* DAMN WOLVES! (Not my dogs)

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:48 am
by trapper_84
we all new this would happen im so so sorry i wish i had the hounds to replace what you have lost. But what i can do is go to Idaho with a few good friends from work that live in that same area that have tags. and kill as many of the evil devil dogs with pure hat in my hart for what they have and will take from us. i now it will not be long be for they are in my good ole neck of the woods. keep your head high and lets go Hunting brother :evil:

Re: *GRAPHIC* DAMN WOLVES! (Not my dogs)

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:02 pm
by walkertreedogs
My uncle lost two of his best bear dogs in newberry,mi to wolfs this fall, the dnr told him he just needs to move where he bear hunts, even though they've hunted there for 20 plus years,there is an article in woods and water, about it, something needs to be done about, these arent just our hounds there family

Re: *GRAPHIC* DAMN WOLVES! (Not my dogs)

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:08 pm
by walkerscan
Marshall wrote:This is what happened to a good friend of mine and a fellow Bgh member. This is horrible and i believe that it needs to be shared so that people can see the devistation that these wolves cause. I dont even know what to say after reading this and seeing these pics. Please pass this on.



I'm mad. And not just a little mad either. Three of the best bear hounds I've ever been lucky enough to own, were killed by federally funded terrorists. Wolves did this while I was bear hunting scarcely ten miles from my house. My dogs were ran down and stretched from end to end. Torn apart with slashing teeth, their skin ripped off in chunks and ate, along with their guts, bones and every other piece they could rip apart before I was able to get to the scene of this ugly crime and run them away. I could smell the dogs before I found them. I could smell the blood and the guts and the death. Ruby had been killed first, there wasn't much left of her. A bare spine was all that held together her front and her hind end. They'd chewed many of her ribs off, down to the backbone. As for Candy, they'd only just begun on her, tearing into her side and chest cavity, guts and organs pulled out onto the ground. They hadn't had a chance to eat much of her before I arrived. She was gruesomely contorted, silently conveying the horrible way she died by the teeth of those wolves. I found Josey 700 yards away. The wolves had tore him up really bad but he was still alive. Although he was rushed to the vet, he died of his wounds. So there it is. All of this took place in no more than fifteen or twenty minutes from the time the wolves came in on my dogs while they were trailing a bear. I couldn't have gotten there any quicker.



As I sat beside my two dead hounds on the hillside I looked out over the beauty of the mountains and the bright blue, cloudless sky. I could hear birds singing and the rustling of the wind as it rolled through the pines. It was a beautiful day but the wolves had put a bloody stain on the land and made these mountains ugly to me. In the Clearwater country of Idaho, where I grew up hunting and running hounds, there is now an uneasiness. All the land can feel it and I can feel it too. This whole scene sickened me and galvanized my deep, deep disdain for the wolf.



Some people seem to think that houndsmen treat their hounds more like a tool than a dog. I assure you that this is not the case. These dogs, that the wolves ate, were part of my family. From the time they were born, they spent a lot of time in the house, sometimes sleeping on the couch or maybe on the dogbed beside my recliner in the living room. I couldn't move without them making sure they could come along with me. They were glad to see me arrive home from work, and they didn't like it when I left them home. These hounds were just the same as anyone else's pet, like your pet, a true part of the family. These dogs didn't deserve to die in such a gruesome way, being torn apart and eaten while they were still alive. No dog does.



What really makes me angry is those who would say that it's a risk that all houndsman take when they unclip the dogs; that by turning our hounds loose, we are putting them in harms way and by doing so we somehow value our dogs less than other dog owners. Houndsman, and the the hounds we hunt with, share the same fundamental yearning in our soul to pursue the wild places. You can't force a hound to chase after a bear or cougar, it's been bred into them for thousands of years. We all realize that there are many inherent dangers when it comes to bear or cougar hunting, however, prior to 1995, having our hounds killed by wolves was not one of those dangers. It was then that this exotic species was introduced to Idaho. The wolves are killing these dogs only because they are occupying the same space. And, frankly these wolves shouldn't be in these mountains in the first place. My dogs are dead, and the fault doesn't lie with the hound or the houndsmen. It lies squarely with the wolves who killed and ate my dogs, and with those who supported, and continue to support, the introduction of this exotic species into an area where it had never roamed before. Never roamed, because the timber wolf that inhabited this area many years ago was a much smaller sub-species than the Canadian grey that we are now plagued with.


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Re: *GRAPHIC* DAMN WOLVES! (Not my dogs)

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:14 pm
by walkerscan
nuttybuddy wrote:Just got news that Steve Schilling had two fine hounds killed last Saturday near Camp 58 up out of Harpster, Idaho. He and his family and friends have been especially hard hit by this out of control wolf situation......they had five killed in one whack just a couple years ago. Something has to be done. Anyone with any realistic ideas on what to do? Greg

POSION every damn one of them!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: *GRAPHIC* DAMN WOLVES! (Not my dogs)

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:47 am
by Sttrue16
i feel for every Houndsman that has ever lost a dog in a horrible way such as the wolfs, i know how close hounds are to there owners and most of them myself included consider our hounds part of the family(our "kids"). I have lost hounds to bears, and that is hard enough but to loose 3 to a tree hugging peoples mistake like that is just horrid!!!!!!!!! I know that if i had wolves around i would be knocking them down every chance i got!
Hope the worst is behind you and you get your revenge on those bastards( to bad it cant be on the people that caused the problem),
Shane

Re: *GRAPHIC* DAMN WOLVES! (Not my dogs)

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:26 am
by LDB
not color blind wrote:
Brent Sinclair wrote:Anyone having questions, I'd be more than glad to share what I have found that works for me here....wolves are wolves and they will make a misteak, let your hounds help even out the playin field...they can not resist stoppin where your ol hound just marked a tree!!!!

Good Luck


Brent (or anyone else that knows), let everyone that can legally help control these critters, know what works best for you.


If you look around on here you will find a post by Brent detailing how he makes his sets, might be under Trapping section, anyone know, I remember seeing it last winter just don't remember exactly where.

Re: *GRAPHIC* DAMN WOLVES! (Not my dogs)

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:24 am
by LDB
I found the posts Brent made in the trapping section and posted on them back to the top so they would be easy to find. You will also want to read Brent's post from October 12 in this topic.