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just curious as to what every body considered on old or cold lion track. in dry drit conditionns. is it getting cold after a couplle hours or is there hounds out there getting it done older than that. like a day or older...? i know exact conditions affect alot but was curious about general ball park

A cold track doesn't necessarily have to be an old track. Like you said conditions have a lot to do with it.

So it is pretty hard to say one track to another.

Here's how i do it. If old Jiggs goes OOoooWoooooah real long and dies off. Pretty cold. If he goes OOw Wooo! WOOO Woo! Pretty good track. If doesn't say a dang thing. Too cold for me. LOL!

Really scientific I know. LOL!

Lots of weather conditions can effect how a track trails and how the scent holds. Asuming trailing conditions are good a 2-3 hour old track will trail about like a night old (8-12) hour old track. Seems like the scent left doesnt change much in that time frame (again asuming trailing conditions are good).

Yes there are hounds that get it done with older tracks. But again conditions have to be right to be able to trail and tree 2-3 day old tracks. Most 2 day or older tracks that I have trailed dont end up at a tree but there has been a few.

Most of the lions i catch in the dirt are night old tracks anywhere from 4 hours to 12 hours old.

When conditiond arnt good ive had 2-4 hour old tracks that act like 3 day olds tracks that i dont catch

Amen to Mike and bigger Mike. Put your best dog down and if he/she moves out, it's not to cold for your pack!

Although cold bear tracks are different than lion tracks, we had my dogs go off pretty well on a boar track yesterday morning around 9:00 AM. The track was crossed the road under where two muzzleloader hunters had parked their trucks, so I got out and found the tracks. The back pad indicated an adult boar and then I found a front pad that measured over 5", and a killer in my eyes.

Since it was so late, and knowing had hard a killer boar is to find around here in late September, We decided to give it a shot. The track was slow to start with my two old red dogs which is always a bad sign. Well, we go to hoping that old big boy was headed into a deep drainage and that he'd hold up pretty quick huh--right, sure thing! Well I put down all six hounds and they inched along for four hours until just after 1:00 PM when they started giving up the track, no water and their sniffers about shut down from the heat. We watched them for fifteen or twenty minutes to make sure it was over, and could see them deep in the bottom of that canyon held up under a shade tree, so I called them all out.........

When I'm alone I bout never start a track that chitty, when you have a killer with you a guy has to try.................

ike

Jeez, when my dogs go ooW ooW ooW and move out of there it's a deer race, and those OOOooooOOOWWW's don't come to often.

Well horse....I didn't know we were talking about deer and elk races. My dogs are second to none when THAT kind of cold trailing is going on. I'm talking in terms of weeks, not days now.....

second to none huh bhg, i may just half to try you for that title. when old jacks gets bored he is hell bound to grub out every elk track around.

BigGameHunter wrote:Well horse....I didn't know we were talking about deer and elk races. My dogs are second to none when THAT kind of cold trailing is going on. I'm talking in terms of weeks, not days now.....

Are you tring to imply that the lions my hounds have been trailing dont have cloven hooves And that it isnt true that utah has a subspecies of lion that has evolved to grow hooves in an effort to leave less scent due to the smaller print for my cold nosed hounds to follow??