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so this subject comes up semiregularly.....when linebreeding/inbreeding what are the optimum combinations, littermate to littermate, mother to son, father to daughter, uncle to neice or aunt to nephew or is that too tight of a breeding and should you step one generation out further.

I think it should be a cross of two dogs that are the most consistant and complimentary of the line, using any of the crosses you mentioned above... Number one rule in my opinion when line breeding tightly, is know your skeletons, if they are something you can't deal with, don't do the breeding.

I have spent a lot of time in the lab doing Bio-engineering so I understand how important it is to know those recessive genes. They will come out!
I guess my questions were more abour the experience that people have had doing this, as I often consider purebred dogs in bred enough as well as if there are standards or ethics to doing this that people adhere to.

nmplott,
the blood line im breeding now started out as haug/stiles out cross then a father/daughter cross....now im breeding a uncle/neice cross...but all the dogs originated out of the origanal father and his litter mate brother which was breed to his neice out of the father/daughter cross....LOL... lINebreeding can be very confusing...but i am getting some awesome pups...when you breed this way you magnify all genes good and bad...so some pups may not turn out...

So as you go are you getting heavier toward the Haug or Stiles?

If Haug, just wondering which Haug dog is the prominate one?

thanks/

Redwood Coonhounds wrote:I think it should be a cross of two dogs that are the most consistant and complimentary of the line, using any of the crosses you mentioned above... Number one rule in my opinion when line breeding tightly, is know your skeletons, if they are something you can't deal with, don't do the breeding.

what are skeletons? i thought the walker breed was relatively healthy compared to other breeds. or,were you referring to things like a coon footed,cow hocked,hot nosed,squall mouthed,silent hound? these recessive "skeletons" must show up occasionally in line bred hounds, just wondering what they are? when littermates display very different characteristics, does this indicate a weaknesses in the breeding program or are they knowingly sacraficing one quality for another, ie:nose for treeing ability or speed for nose, and keeping the best and selling the rest?

skeletons would be considered less than desireable traits. Because you have a litter of pups does not mean that they are going to express the same qualities. The genes expressed can be slightly different in one than another. So think about this the amount of genes gets concentrated when using purebred dogs as you have condensed the genes they a carry to a smaller bag. Now you can condense further by using specific lines this is the same a going from a lawn bag of genes to a 13 gallon trash bag of genes. Then if you breed with in the line you condense them to a gallon size zip lock bag. If you use the zip lock bag method you better make sure that the genes are what you want and not screwey in the least bit as when you dip into the gene pool there a less genes to pick from, but hopefully better ones.

ive never thot of genes and lawn clipping in the same discussion...lmao but you are right with lINebreeding you can get rid of the weeds in the lawn!!!