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I just got a 5 month old redbone pup, his dad is a bear dog and his mom is a coon dog. Both are jam up dogs. Im goin to coon hunt him as hes young and let him run, them probably bear hunt him to. Ive taken him coon huntin 3 times now and hes not under my feet the whole time and is puttin him nose to the ground. Shot a coon out last nite to the older dog, let'em chew on it for a minute then pulled it away from to let the pup mess with it. He seemed a little scared of it, but he did bite it a couple of times and smelled it. Is there anything else i need to do?

There are two things you can do that will help your pup out.

1st- Let the dog grow up. For hell sakes he is 5 months old.

2nd- Stop believing all the BS you are reading about all these pups under the age of 12 months that are doing it.

Lol. Thanks Catch.

Catch wrote:There are two things you can do that will help your pup out.

1st- Let the dog grow up. For hell sakes he is 5 months old.

2nd- Stop believing all the BS you are reading about all these pups under the age of 12 months that are doing it.

I feel bad for you man.

Lol, yea i know.

houndnem wrote:

Catch wrote:There are two things you can do that will help your pup out.

1st- Let the dog grow up. For hell sakes he is 5 months old.

2nd- Stop believing all the BS you are reading about all these pups under the age of 12 months that are doing it.

I feel bad for you man.

Don't feel bad for me. You are the one hunting Blueticks in Utah!

NRedmond wrote:Lol, yea i know.

Why are you laughing NRedmond? You are the one that has a broken dog and asking questions how to fix.

Just laughin bout the comment, and as you said hes just got some grownin up 2 do. Actually, hes not broken, just young, and your comment didnt really help me any, to fix anything. If you really want to get technical i was askin for trainin tips, not tryin to fix a dog.

NRedmond wrote:I just got a 5 month old redbone pup, his dad is a bear dog and his mom is a coon dog. Both are jam up dogs. Im goin to coon hunt him as hes young and let him run, them probably bear hunt him to. Ive taken him coon huntin 3 times now and hes not under my feet the whole time and is puttin him nose to the ground. Shot a coon out last nite to the older dog, let'em chew on it for a minute then pulled it away from to let the pup mess with it. He seemed a little scared of it, but he did bite it a couple of times and smelled it. Is there anything else i need to do?

You were given good advice. Just let him grow up.
When it comes to training a young dog it is really nice having one out of good stock.

Ask these questions out of the owners of Sire and Dam.
When did these dogs start hunting on their own?
When did they start showing real interest in running their own track?

The last thing you want this young dog doing is trying to chew on a coon that is still alive. He will get really good lesson on the meaness of a coons bite.

You are better off just leading him to the tree.
show him the game if you can.
Don`t start shooting big guns around him.
give him a chance to see the good in the world before you expose him to the real world.

Some of these coon races are just to long. Show him very short controled races that you have set up with a drag and caged coon.

Catch, what is wrong with hunting bluetics in utah? I perssonally can't think of a better combonation. what do you run and where? the reason I said I feel bad for you is you made it sound like everybody that has early startin pups are full of sh*t. I kept two pups last year form my cross that at that age with very little training would catch their own on snow. I kept two this year as well, they are bout 5 mo. old and I can't garranty that they would catch their own, but they will start a track on their own and they make every tree. I plan on tryin them on there own next track I find.
That being said, lets get on topic. just keep that pup in the woods as much as possable and his breeding will do the rest. if you have a buddy with some good dogs tag along and turn that pup out on anything you can. let him fight a coon, if he shows he's scared and not ready, back off a little and take baby steps with him. let him chase anything he will put his nose on the ground and trail. once he's got trailing mastared you can teach him what you want him to chase. if you don't have a buddy with good dogs do like I did startin my first couple. find a track and leash im up and walk it out as you encourage hime to chase it. hope this helps.

Catch wrote:There are two things you can do that will help your pup out.

1st- Let the dog grow up. For hell sakes he is 5 months old.

2nd- Stop believing all the BS you are reading about all these pups under the age of 12 months that are doing it.

Nothing wrong with this post, honest and straight up....

Yard dog your right, exept the part about not beliving the b.s. about some peoples young dogs. there are plenty of people that have dogs under 12 mo. performing at great levels. nothing wrong with holding your young dog to a high standard and expecting the most out of him. all dogs are different and some come on sooner some later, it's all about your patience level and how long you will give them to shine. I expect between 6- 12 months they be able to tree their own on snow period! If not it's down the road. Now I'm not saying that somebody couldn't take that same dog and maybe have him catchin his own by 2 years, just that I don't have that kind of time.

5 months old is still a baby. Keep working with the dog. We have hashed out the early to late starters on here a few times now. I think there are benfits to both types of dogs. I personnally do not expect all that much from a 5 month old dog, and I don't expect them to be catching their own game at a year. All you can do is work with the dog and hope something clicks before you get tired of working with it. Sounds like what he is doing now would satisfy me for the time being.

houndnem wrote:I expect between 6- 12 months they be able to tree their own on snow period!

Their own what. House cat, coon, lion, bear, what. I want a pup to show some gameynesss, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for one to lock down on an old cold trail for 5 hours. I would like them to see the house cat coming out of the garage and chase it up a tree though.

This guy has a pup that isn't even 6 months yet, it's showing some signs of being a little timid around game. If it were me, I'd either shelf it and let it mature or bring it with as a spectator but don't let it in on the action. What I would do is take it with me a bunch and let it get used to being handled and out and about. Who knows it may not turn out at all, but I don't think rushing it is going to help.

houndnem wrote: it's all about your patience level and how long you will give them to shine.

This dog is 5 months old, been off the tit for maybee a little more than 12 weeks. If you are going to set the bar that high for young pups, you are going to go through alot of dogs. I happen to agree with Catch....