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i want your opinions on coldest nose breed and the hotest nose breed.

Can't wait to hear these answers!!

ya might get ulgy good times

This question is way too general to get any factual answers. within each of the treehound breeds there are multiple strains that have been chosen for different areas, game and also scenarios. Many years ago shortly after the breeds were set up and established it may have been eqsier to make general statements but now it would take much more in depth study and detail to make any flat, fact bases general statements.



It might be easier to ask a question like which of these strains do you find more extreme cold trail dogs in.

Say:

Cameron blueticks
Duncan Black and Tans
Star Mountain Plotts
Bozo Bred Walkers
Blakesley bred redbones
Hard Time bred English
Camo Bred Leopards

yup thanks thats what i think to but i still want to know what people think what breed has the most cold nosed dog and the hot nosed dogs . thanks

I am a firm believer that it is not so much nose, as track style. Some dogs love grinding out a track others have know interest. To a degree I think "cold nose" can be learned. My coldest nose dog is by far my worst dog, great if you want to listen to the Opry bad if you want to catch game. I watched Burger who was just a mutt and crossed with a good line of lion catching B&T and would out trail my " coldest nose" hound. Once Burger was put on an old melted out track he would trail it much better then the others as he used his head more then the others when he made a loss. Did Burger have a better nose or did he want to please me more then the hounds. Track stlye determines success sometimes more then nose I think.

Almost all Hounds have the same amount of "Olfactory Receptors" as has been discussed here before.

What makes a Hound have a COLD NOSE?

chilcotin hillbilly said it very well when he said "Once Burger was put on an old melted out track he would trail it much better then the others as he used his head more then the others when he made a loss. Did Burger have a better nose or did he want to please me more then the hounds."

Brain Power to go with those "Olfactory Receptors" is what makes a Hound COLD Nosed to us.

I would think that you can find INDIVIDUAL Hounds in any Breed and/or Strain that can meet the requirements to be called COLD nosed.

We would agree with Mr. Mike that the question is too General. Running Bred Hounds are just like Treebred Hounds in that some Strains of all the Breeds tend to produce Hounds that can move a BAD track better than others. One of the "Coldest Nosed" Hounds that Dad has ever seen was a Georgia July....and they darn sure are not noted as being Cold Trailing Hounds.

Good Topic! Just our thoughts.

C. John Clay
Dads dogboy

trouble is, you have no standard when it comes to cold nose hounds. what one feller calls cold nosed is different than what another does. if we all had a chance to hunt behind lots of hounds our opinion of cold nosed would be somewhat more subjective. that being said, in my opinion, if they can RUN a three day old snow track,BACKWARDS, then they are cold nosed hounds....lol...

I would have to go with the chihuahua, not the show or pet dogs but the old style hunting ones!

They are out there in all breeds cold and hot but the main concern is just because a hound has the ability to open on a cold track meens nothing if they can not keep the track moving at a reasonable pace. I have seen many a gentlemans hounds that can sure do a bang up job opening and making some good old mountain music but they just stay in one canyon all day, yes what a cold nose old Boomer has ( but no game in a tree at the end of the day ) just my 3 cents. Andy

CJC,
I agree 100% you hit the nail on the head

I love the replies. Catching game and working cold tracks as stated has very little to do with what was assumed to be cold nosed 30 or 40 years ago. Standing on there heads making a lot of noise was considered cold nose at one time and still by some. Example: My start dogs will start a cat in 90 degree weather in the desert or pouring down rain on the coast any and every day and has caught many. One young male part running dog that I have will miss a lot of the tracks she starts may go or come back on the real hard to work tracks. I have seen him come back to me ,I send him back, he will go by the other dogs and catch the cat that they may never be able to complete the track. In the summer heat I have seen him go by them on a track they can't move and catch the cat. No dog that I have owned has the ability to move and catch cats as he has but I don't consider him cold nose it is track stile. He runs every track he hits no matter how old or tough it is to trail. He never works at a walk. The question is can you get the best of both worlds or do you even want that. If I live in a area of high cat density I would not want to cold trail to catch a lot of cats. In a area as I hunt with a home range of 10 to 15 square miles compared to several cats per square mile I want to work every track I hit. I have always believed that you could not get the best in both worlds with the type of dogs that I like for cats. The traits that I feel you should have in a cat pack can not be bred in one dog. I have crossed back and forth with these dogs to get the elusive perfect cat dog. Not saying that they are not great dogs they each bring there expertise to the pack. I have owned a near perfect cat dog and have seen some others but to bred them consistently where 80% of the pups turn out a type that I want is hard to achieve. I need to say that I am a hard judge of dogs. I have yet to see a perfect dog. I got off the subject a lot but I think people should look at what they mean by being cold nosed, is that what you truly want? At one time you saw a lot of blood hound being bred in to get cold nose, not much any more. I can remember when it was hard to find a treeing walker and they were shunned at night hunts. The hounds have came a long ways in whats out there now, like all things humans can help or we can get in the way. Each to there own if you like it and it catches game hunt it. Dewey

thanks for the help guys sounds like your all on the same page with it.

german bred smooth teckel. i can track a wounded deer 24-36 hrs old even after a light rain. had to throw it in the mix i know its not what your talking about.

We know that blood scent sticks better than animal tracks...