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wolf hunting with hounds video from 1910
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:58 pm
by BOSS HOG
Re: wolf hunting with hounds video from 1910
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:57 pm
by super white hunter
holy smokes what are they gonna do when they have caught it live.
Re: wolf hunting with hounds video from 1910
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:34 pm
by dmunk
Awesome video!! I really wish they would allow dogs in the hunting of wolves here in idaho. Would be intense for sure! Just goes to show that it has been done before and could be done again. It wouldn't take long for the sound of a hound to send wolves running away instead of after them!!
By the way, wolves in russia are larger on average even than the brutes we have here.
Re: wolf hunting with hounds video from 1910
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:51 am
by allnight
That would be a blast!!! But what is scary is the comments from people on YouTube about it!! Wow people are nuts
Re: wolf hunting with hounds video from 1910
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:04 am
by Gunns101
Awsome
Re: wolf hunting with hounds video from 1910
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:10 pm
by Hollowpoint
Oh hell yes, that is a great video. I'd like to see the states that have wolf problems allow this type of hunting.
Re: wolf hunting with hounds video from 1910
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:16 am
by super white hunter
Just had a friend come back from Idaho with a big ol black wolf. They called in 9 of them just making hound dog howls. Feel for you guys up there that have to worry about that.
Re: wolf hunting with hounds video from 1910
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:28 am
by Pops
those are steppe wolves from central asia & ukraine, a medium species that lacks the aggression of the big canadians introduced into the western states. there are modern videos of hunts in Khazakstan. the big subarctic russian/siberian greys are no bigger nor any different in personality from the big greys bought into the rockies. they could be taken but it'll take more dog than those dinky little tazis in the video & plenty of them.
Re: wolf hunting with hounds video from 1910
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:29 am
by Terry L. Zink
great video, but hounds or wolf hounds wouldn't hold a candle againest the wolves we have here.
Re: wolf hunting with hounds video from 1910
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:48 pm
by bluesage
Great video! Thanks for sharing that one. I would love to see wolf hunting with dogs brought back. We need some big dogs like the Kangal from Turkey or something like that.
Re: wolf hunting with hounds video from 1910
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:07 pm
by Hagerman
That was a good video Boss Hog, thank you.
Re: wolf hunting with hounds video from 1910
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:33 pm
by dmunk
Russia has a long and well documented history of wolf hunting with dogs, not just on the steppe, but throughout most of its large expanse. Every detailed source i have been able to find has stated russia/ siberia has the heaviest wolves on average in the world. Not trying to minimize the size of our wolves in ID, but 2010 average size of adult male taken was right at 100lbs. Important thing to remember is the borzoi they used didn't usually kill the wolf, but would all bite and hang on for life until the hunter showed up to dispatch it.
Re: wolf hunting with hounds video from 1910
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:28 pm
by Pops
siberia covers pretty much the entire region from the urals to the pacific & the arctic to the gobi desert. in that area MOST is populated by small & medium species like the steppe, caspian, iranian & himalayan wolves.
the russian nobility did most of their wolf hunting from dachas in the Ukraine where they chased caspians & steppes. they went so far as to import steppe & caspian wolves for canned hunts around moscow & st petersburg.
the traditional technique for hunting the large arctic/subarctic greys was to stake out a bait animal (old wasted work horse was preferred) & shot the wolves as they killed the bait. prior to the advent of firearms, trapping w/ spring snares & deadfalls w/ horse meat for bait was the primary method of killing.
the native siberians, like the hanty & mansi used a single laika to track the wolves & the hunter would shoot them. still their primary killing technique was also trapping.
hunting the big greys w/dogs always involved terrible losses for the dogs.
likewise all the wolf killing livestock guard dogs come from places where they face small & medium wolves that DO NOT use the large pack structures. additionally the small & medium species lack the inherent aggression & tenacity of the the large greys. all of which is why red wolves are not a problem in NC.
the alaunt gentile & the original bloodhounds hunted the medium/large wolves of germany, poland and such, but they used large packs & took terrible losses (the hounds more so than the alaunts).
Alaunts were probably the last "breed" to take down bigger wolves w/ any consistancy. anything since then has been an anomoly (freak occurance).
if we develop dogs to take them consistantly, we'll be the first in hundreds of years.
Re: wolf hunting with hounds video from 1910
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:32 am
by super white hunter
Pops wrote:siberia covers pretty much the entire region from the urals to the pacific & the arctic to the gobi desert. in that area MOST is populated by small & medium species like the steppe, caspian, iranian & himalayan wolves.
the russian nobility did most of their wolf hunting from dachas in the Ukraine where they chased caspians & steppes. they went so far as to import steppe & caspian wolves for canned hunts around moscow & st petersburg.
the traditional technique for hunting the large arctic/subarctic greys was to stake out a bait animal (old wasted work horse was preferred) & shot the wolves as they killed the bait. prior to the advent of firearms, trapping w/ spring snares & deadfalls w/ horse meat for bait was the primary method of killing.
the native siberians, like the hanty & mansi used a single laika to track the wolves & the hunter would shoot them. still their primary killing technique was also trapping.
hunting the big greys w/dogs always involved terrible losses for the dogs.
likewise all the wolf killing livestock guard dogs come from places where they face small & medium wolves that DO NOT use the large pack structures. additionally the small & medium species lack the inherent aggression & tenacity of the the large greys. all of which is why red wolves are not a problem in NC.
the alaunt gentile & the original bloodhounds hunted the medium/large wolves of germany, poland and such, but they used large packs & took terrible losses (the hounds more so than the alaunts).
Alaunts were probably the last "breed" to take down bigger wolves w/ any consistancy. anything since then has been an anomoly (freak occurance).
if we develop dogs to take them consistantly, we'll be the first in hundreds of years.
Thats something to think about, with all the problems there having up north you could start a breed and go to work for the ranchers who are having all the problems. The new modern houndsmen
Good Luck
Re: wolf hunting with hounds video from 1910
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:20 pm
by campbell
great video man thanks for sharing