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red fox

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:11 pm
by stevemac
Do you guys run red fox as well as the greys or are you hounds more suited to the greys as they might tree more readily

Re: red fox

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:42 pm
by scrubrunner
Here in the southeastern US we run both. We use running hounds, walkers, julys, triggs ect. Which typically don't tree. The reds run the open woods and fields mostly and are much faster than the grays which usually runs the thick nasty stuff. In my experience the big well built hounds can really stretch a pack out in the open on a red but may not shine as much in the thick scrub, gallberry, titi and briers on a gray. Here in central Fla. I don't believe gray fox tree very often, there are 1 or 2 gopher (tortoise) hole per acre here so when things get to hot for mr. Fox he just goes in a gopher hole.

Re: red fox

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:52 pm
by Jkohnke
I would choose a red fox race any day over greys. Greys tend to run tight loops in the thickest places. I've personally never seen a grey tree here. Once in a running pen saw one in a tree. If they do tree my dogs wouldn't tree them. They just go find something else to run.

Re: red fox

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:42 pm
by southern fox
here in so Georgia greys don't tree to much might get 1 to go in something but not up 2 much , ol timers used to say don't run those little ones cause u will teach them to go back in the hole, but I cant help it got to go anyway, as for reds I have nothing that will run a red , don't think we have many here , aint no fields much around here , now got a nice crop of coyotes, plenty of them

Re: red fox

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:23 pm
by Dan Edwards
We don't have enough of them to really say we run them but when it does happen they don't really tree. They just look for the nearest hole and head for it the majority of the time.

Re: red fox

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:35 pm
by artrodex
look like the job for a terrier

Re: red fox

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:39 pm
by Dan Edwards
artrodex wrote:look like the job for a terrier
Hell ya it would be but I had enough of that stuff. HAHA! I pretty much am on that refuse to dig time these days......but I'd be glad to sit back and watch you do it. :beer

Re: red fox

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:41 pm
by scrubrunner
Fox are classified as a sporting animal in Florida and may not be killed, shot ,trapped, possessed, or transported. But may be chased with hounds, I think incidental catch is exceptable. I don't think putting a terrier down the hole would be incidental! Most gopher holes are around 14 feet deep and 40 feet long it would take a LOT of digging unless the terrier brings the fox out. Never had any experience with terriers.

Re: red fox

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:34 pm
by Dan Edwards
If I could I would show you some pics that would blow your mind. Its unreal how far and deep them boys can dig in a very short period of time.

Re: red fox

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:51 am
by southern fox
scrub wish they were here on the list to not be shot, people here will shoot anything that walks crawls or wiggles, people just want to kill everything, cant understand it, if man had his way he would wipe everything on earth out and then bitch wondering where it all went, I haven't seen a grey climb while the hounds run him but I know they can cause I seen them up a tree in small puppy pens, way up appox 50 60 feet off the ground, ran bunches in holes, and prob a lot up trees, my stuff wont tree, so I know when they come to the truck he either went in or up something