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gundogs x bulls

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:22 pm
by hillbilly boy
hey you all hoping maybe some of you all could give me some input what I think mit be the best dog if what I have been looking for i have be thinking about getting into fur hunting and trapping and what would need the dog to do is work the trap line finding the ones that drag the traps off and finding dens when i am call hunting to let me know when the game is coming and to do blood work and last for shed hunting

i am thinking the gundog x bull would be a good one because the gundog would give a prett good tracking blood and the bull would give the blood to stop anything it got to

Re: gundogs x bulls

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:14 pm
by Jeff Eberle
Why go to all that trouble , Go get a MT. Cur or BMC that is being breed already for that kind of hunting.

Re: gundogs x bulls

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:43 am
by Henefer-hound-hunter
Their are a whole bunch of breeds that already exist that excel at what you are wanting. Airedales, curs, drahthaars, catahoulas, German short hairs, blue lacys, German wire hairs, and a lot of the collie breeds work well too. That's a few off the top of my head that would excel at the qualities your looking for, and I'm sure their are many more. Good luck and hope that helps.

Cameron

Re: gundogs x bulls

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:01 am
by Rowdy
I've done a lot of what you list with a Chesapeake Bay Retriever. Labs too. They are companion dogs/gun dogs that are easily trained and won't blow out after game simply for the chase. Just a thought.


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Re: gundogs x bulls

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:33 am
by john porter
Have had a lot of bull dog mixes for hog hunting and they are not what you would want for fur harvesting. Get anyone of the strains of cur dogs and you will be good to go or train a bird dog that wont leave out when you release it.

Re: gundogs x bulls

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:54 am
by SASS
Based on what you are wanting one for, I would say a good cat or bmc would do the trick as they can be trained to do bout anything. They are bred to be stock dogs and farm dogs. They can hunt, work cattle, and anything else you are patient enough to train them to do. Either type of pointer wouldn't be a bad choice either imo. Good luck in your search, let us know what you end up going with.

Re: gundogs x bulls

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:20 am
by AK Zach
German short-haired pointers are often used for blood tracking, alot of them are trained to hunt sheds with great success. There is a book on the market about training dogs to hunt shed, I don't remember what it was but I think I saw it on F&t. Have seen some gsp crossed with hounds that excelled in running game as well.

Re: gundogs x bulls

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:12 am
by stevemac
personally I d go for a GWP in your position though Im no stranger to xd up dogs and the right lurcher would handle the job you are wanting as well

Re: gundogs x bulls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:53 am
by hillbilly boy
Sorry about be off so long but I see u all have ideas for me the main thing I was thinking was for a dog that would not be cut up taking care of a shot or trapd fox or coon let alone a coyot or bobcat I am looking more to the gun dog but need a know if any of them can hold their own if needed be

Re: gundogs x bulls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:02 am
by pegleg
Well if its in a trap you just need a locator not a kill dog. Fox hides aren't that tuff anyway. Any decent hunting breed will probably work. Terriers some staghounds. The cur breeds the more multi purpose gun dogs think German or southern European not English their dogs are more specialist. A pure hound probably wouldn't do all you want.

Re: gundogs x bulls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:23 am
by hillbilly boy
I met if the dog ever got jumped before I could get there

Re: gundogs x bulls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:16 am
by Dan Edwards
You want a bay dog that wont get too rough. You don't want them engaging unless just to stop it from running away. Hence the reason the good bay dogs work cuz most of them will hammer something running away to get it to turn.

Re: gundogs x bulls

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:18 am
by hillbilly boy
That what I am trying to figure out which one will be able to bay up and not get killed

Re: gundogs x bulls

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:04 am
by Henefer-hound-hunter
I think for what you want, you should stick with either a catahoula, BMC, blue lacy, or Airedale. All these breeds are multi- purpose, smart(trainable), and excell at the disciplines you want in a dog. Plus any one of these dog breeds will stop the animals your trapping and hold their own in shitty situations.

Cam

Re: gundogs x bulls

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:35 am
by Dan Edwards
hillbilly boy wrote:That what I am trying to figure out which one will be able to bay up and not get killed


Well as long as you don't get one of them Paris Hilton purse dogs I'd say you and your mutt will be plenty safe.