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I've calmed down to write this.

I recently acquired a dog that has been the receiving end of regular beatings. I didn't know what was used until this morning when i picked up some kindling to feed the fire and he hit the deck and pissed himself. Needless to say, if I knew your name I would post it here without any qualms. You have no business owning dogs!

Just because you own a hound, or any hunting dog, does not mean that you need to beat the dog down to get it pay attention. A cowering, timid dog is NOT an asset to pack or a hunter.

Properly directing a dog in the direction you need it too does NOT require beatings. Discipline is one thing, beatings are another.

Regular kicking and beating a dog, choking down, and starving a dog shows nothing except that you are a BULLY! and have no business in this sport. If this is the way you have learned to train a dog in order for it to accomplish success, you need to go to a clinic put on by a professional and pick up a couple training books. I would be surprised if beating your dogs has a chapter or a time slot.

Just so you know what kind of handler I am. My dogs get to ride in the back seat and praised at tree. I also catch a pile of cats and lions!

I'm not supporting beating dogs. However this is a hound hunting site. Its freaauented by people who use hounds to hunt and a very few who are rabid anti hunting lunatics. Now I'm betting that who ever beat the dog before you got it isn't in either one of these groups.so posting this might make you feel better for a second , however it isn't addressing the problem of who ever beat the dog in the first place and secondly it makes good ammo for antis to say well animal abuse is rampant in the hound community.
If you really wished to track down the previous owner I'm sure you have a much better chance of doing it then those of us states away who have no idea where to start.
I've never seen a top hound who had been beaten like you describe. I haven't heard of a houndsmen that routinely beats their hounds either. All the worst horror stories are about people that don't hunt or those that "hunt for money" not many of those types here. Why would they waste their time talking or reading about something they know nothing about and care less about?
My point being that post is anything but helpful to the hound community.

I'm not going to sugar coat truth for people so they can have a warm and fuzzy feeling.

That's the issue with country anymore, Everyone's afraid to speak the truth and offend someone.

I cant possibly see where your post did anyone any good (including the dog) other than to give you a warm fuzzy feeling. There is a thing called common sense and mine tells me that some things are best kept to yourself sometimes. So i guess i just exercised my right to not sugar coat for warm fuzzies.

You know funstuff your post is pretty dumbstuff.
maybe that was the reason the dog was available ? naturally timid dog someone didn't think was gonna make the grade?
Most of the guys I know that are experienced dog handlers and catch a lot of game are pretty careful about where their dogs come from.
But good luck with the "dog whispering"
Maybe consider a pellet stove ? less intimidating picking up those little chips than a big bad piece of kindling.

I have seen hounds and cur dogs that acted like that and never had a hand on them. I also heard the same on horses where their owners would blame reason for a bad habit.
That being said, myself and many of the other houndsman I know saw something like that, it would not be the hound getting the beating.

I believe funstuff is saying there is a big difference in how to get the full potential out of a hound than (stupid) disiciplene. Anti make everything look bad no matter what it is. I've seen exactly what he is talking of. Regardless of what calibur a dog is smart handling is a must. Some of you guys need to have a beer lol. I have seen funstuffs dog they handle like labs he spends alot of one on one time more than most.Andy

Hell Andy i had 6 beers how else do you think i could come up with a profound post like that?

I am not a "dog whisperer" or "dumbstuff". I spend time with my dogs because I want them to handle and catch regular.

There are bad apples in every group and not acknowledging them and ignoring the fact that people have a very hard hand to train a dog does not make the problem go away.

Defending that type of training reflects on your character.

Bringing this issue to light on a public forum is no more hurtful than posting kill pics!

I was in no way trying to come across as defending that kind of handling. I saw lots of that in my early years of hunting. I didnt like it then and detest it now!!!!!!!

If someone feels the need to beat on their hound it hardly makes them a houndsmen or part of the group. Sugar coating shit and putting it in print are two intirely different things. Its sad how people come and go in the hound world sometimes. But its those that can't handle the "stress" or responsibility of taking care of their dogs that disappear. However if you think this is a houndsmens issue I disagree. If you think bringing it up here is going to improve things I disagree. People realize that there's a lot of things not appropriate for public. And these are things everyone does. Restrooms ring a bell? Dog beating isn't a majority behavior.
There's far more productive ways of spreading the word on how to humanely deal with behavior issues.

Guess im not a houndsman by BIG GAME HOUNDSMEN standards LOL.SH*T kills me.
Good luck with getting that dog to come around there Funguy.

I can usually tell by pics posted on here if a person is a houndsman or just a person hunting dogs. A few will get what I'm talking of the rest won't lol. Andy

got to admit it blackcreekboy that pellet stove comment was dam funny//

twist wrote:I can usually tell by pics posted on here if a person is a houndsman or just a person hunting dogs. A few will get what I'm talking of the rest won't lol. Andy

What do you see here? Lmao