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Cur for bear

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:50 pm
by little e kennels
I am looking to purchase my first bmc and I want to run them on bear. What are some good blood lines to look for and are there any breeders that I should look at for there hounds


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Re: Cur for bear

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:11 pm
by Jeff Eberle
Are you looking to add a BMC to a pack of bear hounds or build a pack of BMC to run bear ?

Re: Cur for bear

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:55 am
by little e kennels
Jeff Eberle wrote:Are you looking to add a BMC to a pack of bear hounds or build a pack of BMC to run bear ?
At the moment I have a pack so I guess I am looking to add BMC to my pack and as I need to add more dogs go with nothing but BMC


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Re: Cur for bear

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:13 am
by Jeff Eberle
Look up Boar Runner ( Bob Fogel) on this site. He can tell you all you want to know about BMC. The phone number on his profile is no longer in service. PM him on here or look him up on Facebook. I don't give out others numbers.

Re: Cur for bear

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:18 am
by Rshcwisdom
A guy that lives down the road from me has some BMC. He hunts them on bear, lion, and coon. He catches alot of game with them. They tree pretty good but they don't make a sound on track. I guess with today's GPS you can keep track of your dogs without hearing them but I still enjoy hearing a good race.

Re: Cur for bear

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:29 am
by little e kennels
Rshcwisdom wrote:A guy that lives down the road from me has some BMC. He hunts them on bear, lion, and coon. He catches alot of game with them. They tree pretty good but they don't make a sound on track. I guess with today's GPS you can keep track of your dogs without hearing them but I still enjoy hearing a good race.


I am with you I like to hear a good race I may just keep a hound or 2 in the mix so I can hear them



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Re: Cur for bear

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:30 am
by little e kennels
Jeff Eberle wrote:Look up Boar Runner ( Bob Fogel) on this site. He can tell you all you want to know about BMC. The phone number on his profile is no longer in service. PM him on here or look him up on Facebook. I don't give out others numbers.

Thanks for the info I will look him up


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Re: Cur for bear

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:11 pm
by SASS
There are better curs for running big game imo. I have had BMC and I hunt with a few that parnters have. Real good hog dogs, silent to semi silent on track but I just feel like especially for bear you want at least a semi open to fully open dog. But if you are stuck on yellow cur dogs I would look into Striker bred Kemmer curs. They have been bred for bobcat, lion, and bear for a while and have done real well. JMO

Re: Cur for bear

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:50 am
by little e kennels
SASS wrote:There are better curs for running big game imo. I have had BMC and I hunt with a few that parnters have. Real good hog dogs, silent to semi silent on track but I just feel like especially for bear you want at least a semi open to fully open dog. But if you are stuck on yellow cur dogs I would look into Striker bred Kemmer curs. They have been bred for bobcat, lion, and bear for a while and have done real well. JMO

Do you know anyone who breeds any of those lines?


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Re: Cur for bear

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:14 pm
by Jeff Eberle
little e kennels wrote:
SASS wrote:There are better curs for running big game imo. I have had BMC and I hunt with a few that parnters have. Real good hog dogs, silent to semi silent on track but I just feel like especially for bear you want at least a semi open to fully open dog. But if you are stuck on yellow cur dogs I would look into Striker bred Kemmer curs. They have been bred for bobcat, lion, and bear for a while and have done real well. JMO

Do you know anyone who breeds any of those lines?


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Kenneth Smith was talking about breeding two heavily breed Striker dogs he has. 931-583-2468. I also have a buddy in Idaho that has a young male That Derrell Fry said is as close to striker as you can get . He is being only hunted on bobcat and will be for sale as a very well started dog just before this next coming season. Or don't know if you like them or not but their are a lot of Leopard cur/hounds that are open.

Re: Cur for bear

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:27 pm
by SASS
Jeff Eberle wrote:
little e kennels wrote:
SASS wrote:There are better curs for running big game imo. I have had BMC and I hunt with a few that parnters have. Real good hog dogs, silent to semi silent on track but I just feel like especially for bear you want at least a semi open to fully open dog. But if you are stuck on yellow cur dogs I would look into Striker bred Kemmer curs. They have been bred for bobcat, lion, and bear for a while and have done real well. JMO

Do you know anyone who breeds any of those lines?


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Kenneth Smith was talking about breeding two heavily breed Striker dogs he has. 931-583-2468. I also have a buddy in Idaho that has a young male That Derrell Fry said is as close to striker as you can get . He is being only hunted on bobcat and will be for sale as a very well started dog just before this next coming season. Or don't know if you like them or not but their are a lot of Leopard cur/hounds that are open.
Ive spoke to Kenneth a few times on the phone and he is a great guy and very honest about his dogs. He told me both what he felt was the good and bad about them. I don't think you could go wrong speaking with him.

Good looking out Jeff, I could not find his number as I don't think I saved it.

Re: Cur for bear

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:03 pm
by Idcurs
Why in the world do you want a dogs thats tells the bear here I come?????All of the silent curs that I run lion and bear with catch most on the ground and make the race a lot shorter!!!!!If you want a Striker bred cur go to Derril,Bill,or Mike Fry,they will tell a close
Striker bred cur will be open with a bawl.The ones I have had were cold nosed ,open,and slower trailing curs.That is what Derril has bred and wanted out of his dogs for a long time.I have curs with Striker in them but they have a lot of other cur lines to make them silent and fast track curs.I only keep very gritty curs that are fast track and good tree curs.

Re: Cur for bear

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:56 am
by not color blind
Idcurs wrote:Why in the world do you want a dogs thats tells the bear here I come?????
Maybe for the enjoyment of a good bear race..

Might as well sit over a stump full of donuts if they ain't gonna bark on track. :beer

Re: Cur for bear

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:52 pm
by Idcurs
I only want to catch bear,not listen to dogs barking!!!!!If all you want is to hear is a race it does not matter what type of hound you have.If you want to catch it really matters!!!I have glassed bears in a prickly pear patch eating pears and heard the hounds coming and the bears left when they heard the hounds,23 minutes later the hounds got to the patch.I don't want to give a bear a head start like that.Western bears are thin and cover a hell of a lot country in 23 minutes.I had hounds many years back,but changed to silent curs and have caught a lot more game.

Re: Cur for bear

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:18 am
by not color blind
Idcurs wrote:I only want to catch bear,not listen to dogs barking!!!!!If all you want is to hear is a race it does not matter what type of hound you have.If you want to catch it really matters!!!
10/4. I always wanna do both. But different strokes for different folks.. Keep doing what you enjoy.