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Tieing dogs at the tree
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:06 am
by Bluedog88
Why do you tie dogs separately at the tree ? I do it I've been told to but what's the reason why?
Re: Tieing dogs at the tree
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:22 am
by kickemall
I couple as many as I can so I don't have to carry as many leashes. Often times its hard to find a decent place to tie them so together is better. No idea why anyone would want to tie separately.
Re: Tieing dogs at the tree
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:43 am
by bearsnva
If you have two dogs tied together and one jumps over a larger fallen tree or some other object and the other dog doesn't then you have the potential for getting a dog choked to death. Had a hunting friend have this happen at a bear tree when it was dark, lot of dogs and no one noticed till too late. Rare occurrence but it did happen, only other reason would be if you had some growly dogs but that is a whole different circumstance.
Re: Tieing dogs at the tree
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:49 am
by palmer outfitters
agreed, ive had dogs jump over each other and around a tree or bush and get the leash tangled up around their neck if you do it definitely keep a close eye on your dogs, they are excited and all amped up and it is easy for them to get tangled. i always take the time to tie them seperately since this happened. luckily we saw it and untangled the dogs.
Re: Tieing dogs at the tree
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:53 am
by CouesHunter
Anything lite weight or home made that you all are using to tie them up with other than a standard leash? Just curious
Re: Tieing dogs at the tree
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:14 am
by Mike Leonard
I have used cheap little tie topes with snaps you can stick in your pocket or saddle-bag, but don't count on them, just for use in a pinch.
For years I have carried and used the orange cable plastic covered double leads with good heavy double snaps. Some dogs get wound up at a bear or lion tree and will bite thru a regular leash in about 2 seconds, so your option is chain or cable.
Here is a little advice that will pay off for you: don't get as wound up as your dogs at a tree. Sure it is exciting to get a critter up , but move slow take your time catch your dogs and tie them securely and alone if possible for reasons stated before. If the animals is visible make sure you have one or two more experienced dogs where they can see it if it bails out.
Some guys are rushing around under the tree, slipping and falling and rolling around with the their dogs, and somebody or something can get hurt. Just slow down and remember it only takes a minute or two to do it right, and then you can relax and do what you need to do.
always give clear instructions to those who may be inexperienced coming into a bear or lion and this will save you some problems and maybe really long walks
I know many big game hunters don't tie their dogs back on short trees and such but it can also be helpful to not encourage young dogs to tree climb watching some older tree climbers clamoring up the tree. Also you only have to see a dog's back or hind leg broke one time by a falling bear or limb to get the idea why to tie them back out of the way.
Dogs lunging and climbing and falling are a leading cause of dogs fights under the tree, and these can lead to seeing your best dog with his guts pulled out quick.
Not fun!
Re: Tieing dogs at the tree
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:01 am
by Goose
Mike Leonard wrote:I have used cheap little tie topes with snaps you can stick in your pocket or saddle-bag, but don't count on them, just for use in a pinch.
For years I have carried and used the orange cable plastic covered double leads with good heavy double snaps. Some dogs get wound up at a bear or lion tree and will bite thru a regular leash in about 2 seconds, so your option is chain or cable.
Here is a little advice that will pay off for you: don't get as wound up as your dogs at a tree. Sure it is exciting to get a critter up , but move slow take your time catch your dogs and tie them securely and alone if possible for reasons stated before. If the animals is visible make sure you have one or two more experienced dogs where they can see it if it bails out.
Some guys are rushing around under the tree, slipping and falling and rolling around with the their dogs, and somebody or something can get hurt. Just slow down and remember it only takes a minute or two to do it right, and then you can relax and do what you need to do.
always give clear instructions to those who may be inexperienced coming into a bear or lion and this will save you some problems and maybe really long walks
I know many big game hunters don't tie their dogs back on short trees and such but it can also be helpful to not encourage young dogs to tree climb watching some older tree climbers clamoring up the tree. Also you only have to see a dog's back or hind leg broke one time by a falling bear or limb to get the idea why to tie them back out of the way.
Dogs lunging and climbing and falling are a leading cause of dogs fights under the tree, and these can lead to seeing your best dog with his guts pulled out quick.
Not fun!
Common sense saves lives, I lost a very nice catchdog last summer to a naive individual getting so pumped up, we caught a good boar on a creek bank and him and the hog and another catch dog slid off into the edge of the water, I got my dog off and hand him to a friend and started to tie the hog, I got done and leashed my dog and went to walk off and felt dead weight, I looked down and I was dragging dead dog, I quickly tried CPR believe it or not but he was to far gone, the idiot had held him by his collar and held the dog in the creek and was pulling back on his collar to keep his head above water and strangled my dam dog to death unknowingly, so yea y’all have a little briefing before going into a bay or tree....
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Re: Tieing dogs at the tree
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:11 am
by Rossco
For me personally, I have started making my leads out of braided paracord. They use to be mad out of rope. Anyhow, the ones I make all have 2 snaps on them to hook to dogs. For the most part every tree I am at dogs are tied back in pairs. Sometimes things go fast and I just grab a dog and tie it back on its own and hurry up to tie up the next. And there have been the rare occasions due to lack of things to tie to I have just ran the lead through collars and tied 4 or 5 dogs to the same tree. In the long run, I think you just so what works for you or what you have to do in any situation
Re: Tieing dogs at the tree
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:32 am
by Rossco
I also think your question may have a lot to do with the type of dog a person likes to own. Me personally, I like a dog that will locate and then sit back and tree where they can see a critter in big timber. Or in small timber just sit and tree wherever they happen to feel comfortable. I rarely kill animals, so most of my dogs satisfaction is in what they are born to do and in me praising them at the tree. But I believe there is a big difference in praising a dog at the tree, and turning it into a jacked up idiot. I enjoy seeing a dog stand up on the tree and barking. But I think you are asking for nothing but trouble in the long run when you over excite your dogs at a tree and have them running and jumping in the air off of it and doing other wild and crazy things. So I guess to answer your question, with solid calm tree dogs you can tie them back however you want. But if that isn't the situation you have, it may be a good idea to tie back one dog to a lead
Re: Tieing dogs at the tree
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:05 am
by al baldwin
I do not like tieing dogs at the tree, my mentors never tied dogs at the tree, guess we were lucky but cannot recall ever getting a dog hurt by a critter landing on a dog. Too many of these bear here would come down the tree like they were shot out a gun, so was taught to slip into the tree. Know of a bear that came down , ate some tied dogs up , also bite a lady severe in her thigh. I do pack light nylon rope with small snaps & yes an aggressive dog can chew them up. However my bear hunting days have been over for years. Al
Re: Tieing dogs at the tree
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:55 am
by VARMIT HUNTER
Rossco you nailed it I like calm tree dogs 50-80 barks a minute is fine and most of mine sit down and tree. No tree jackers , and no face barkers. JMHO