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Which organizations are reputable for registering:
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:46 am
by JonBailey64
The RUNNING Hound Breeds?
1. Foxhounds, American
2. Running Walkers (AKC and UKC doesn't recognize them)
3. Foxhounds, English
4. Foxhound Derivatives: Trigg, July, Black And Tan Virginia Foxhound, Goodman
PS - I noticed this website is primarily devoted to TREEING Hounds.
Re: Which organizations are reputable for registering:
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:51 am
by perk
1. Chase or Hunters Horn, (IFSB and SFSB)
2. That is a term used by yall out west to say American foxhound (Walker strain specifically) no one on this side the country uses that term as we all know Walker means foxhound and treeing Walker means coondog
3. Have to talk to people in England about that, not even many red coat horse riding clubs use them here, the American hound is much better suited for this country.
4. CHASE AND HUNTERS HORN, those are strains of American foxhound, come from same type of foundational stock but named that for the men who pioneered that strain of American Foxhound, they arent seperate breeds and can be cross bred and registered still, bc they are all American American foxhounds.
VA BLACK AND TAN foxhound is nothing, is not a specific breed refers to the dogs hunted 150- 250 years ago on grey fox who didn't excel on the red fox once red were brought to amercia, therefore the need for the creation of American foxhounds, with the speed and stamina, and that's where the names of those strains u listed in number 4 began to create their own ideal hound usually from same stock, trading and buying pups, brood bitches, studs amongst each other and from European descent
Re: Which organizations are reputable for registering:
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:22 am
by JonBailey64
perk wrote:1. Chase or Hunters Horn, (IFSB and SFSB)
2. That is a term used by yall out west to say American foxhound (Walker strain specifically) no one on this side the country uses that term as we all know Walker means foxhound and treeing Walker means coondog
3. Have to talk to people in England about that, not even many red coat horse riding clubs use them here, the American hound is much better suited for this country.
4. CHASE AND HUNTERS HORN, those are strains of American foxhound, come from same type of foundational stock but named that for the men who pioneered that strain of American Foxhound, they arent seperate breeds and can be cross bred and registered still, bc they are all American American foxhounds.
VA BLACK AND TAN foxhound is nothing, is not a specific breed refers to the dogs hunted 150- 250 years ago on grey fox who didn't excel on the red fox once red were brought to amercia, therefore the need for the creation of American foxhounds, with the speed and stamina, and that's where the names of those strains u listed in number 4 began to create their own ideal hound usually from same stock, trading and buying pups, brood bitches, studs amongst each other and from European descent
Thanks, perk. My hound knowledge is becoming keener. Hounds are something of a mystery in the dog world. Most laymen, casual pet dog owners, only know about the AKC.
AKC is a common term seen in classified ads by BYBs.
I found The Chase home page. I checked out the Horn too. This Hunter's Horn seems like a Mickey-Mouse outfit. A Facebook page with broken links leading to nowhere. No information about dog registration.
Re: Which organizations are reputable for registering:
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:04 am
by perk
The Horn has been around a long time. Not a Mickey mouse organization, remember when these organizations were started everything was pen and paper. FACEBOOK is relatively new in our lifetime and many people (myself included) do not utilize that Avenue of social media, most the hound men and women that utilize those registries are more worried about their hounds then what the links on a web page are.
Re: Which organizations are reputable for registering:
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:34 am
by JonBailey64
perk wrote:The Horn has been around a long time. Not a Mickey mouse organization, remember when these organizations were started everything was pen and paper. FACEBOOK is relatively new in our lifetime and many people (myself included) do not utilize that Avenue of social media, most the hound men and women that utilize those registries are more worried about their hounds then what the links on a web page are.
So, it seems that hound folks are a rather old-fashioned bunch whereas bird-dog types are more hip and modern. Fox hunting is quite quaint. It seems as the South is the last bastion of traditional hunting hounds in America. The leading foxhound authorities often won't have a nice, pretty custom easy-to-navigate website like the AKC does. Ok, sir.
I was somewhat impressed by The Chase's site. It did have all the rules and fees of dog registration in an easy-to-read format.
I'm generally not impressed with business concerns that that are hosted on Facebook. I am more impressed by an entity that has its very own exclusive website.
Re: Which organizations are reputable for registering:
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:08 pm
by macedonia mule man
Jon Bailey, most all dog hunting started in the east and headed west with the settling of the country. The east and south east has Ben and still is a hot bed for dog hunting. It is losing ground pretty fast due to population and loss of free running grounds. Every breed that I know of has its roots in the east. All the big game dogs of the west from Canadian border to Cal. On into Mexico ancestors came from eastern breeding. If you trace the papered big game dogs back in the pedigree you will find eastern origin. I don't know much about bird dog breeding but in the south east from 1950- 1980s there is no telling how many tons of quail that went on the dinner table. My dad killed a ton by himself and I never heard him discuss dog breeding or redgistery. Dogs were hunted into good dogs not breed into good dogs. Will never see that paradise again, wish we could but it can't happen without a drastic population reduction.