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Re: Bear transmits infection to dog?

Postby brycejohnson » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:46 am

I just got the results today. OSU’s equipment covers 18 more diseases then the local vet could. (The vet I took him to this time is a pretty nice/pricey vet.) So far all tests have come back negative. Not a tick disease, or a fungal disease, or a bacterial infection, not heartworm, had his liver and kidneys tested, all their numbers are good, thyroid numbers are good too. Basically the vet said they couldn’t help us and would recommend me to a different vet in OKC.
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Re: Bear transmits infection to dog?

Postby Goose » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:26 pm

I’ve seen several instances down here of dogs contracting from hogs, or at least that seemed to be the common denominator in all cases, and the symptoms they showed are Eerily similar, no types of external wounds and each dog came into contact with a hog, in one case two different dogs died, the hogs died as soon as he was caught, it was middle of the summer and he didn’t look the least bit poor so at first we thought he died of a heat stroke...
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Re: Bear transmits infection to dog?

Postby brycejohnson » Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:20 pm

Hey Goose, you think it was trichenellosis?
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Re: Bear transmits infection to dog?

Postby Goose » Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:17 pm

brycejohnson wrote:Hey Goose, you think it was trichenellosis?


That’s one of those million dollar questions, that was over 10 years ago, and at a time when this certain section of swamp was so overrun with hogs that they were starving and as with anything whenever there is an over abundance of population, all sorts of ailments, viruses, and diseases form...
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Re: Bear transmits infection to dog?

Postby brycejohnson » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:05 pm

Goose wrote:
brycejohnson wrote:Hey Goose, you think it was trichenellosis?


That’s one of those million dollar questions, that was over 10 years ago, and at a time when this certain section of swamp was so overrun with hogs that they were starving and as with anything whenever there is an over abundance of population, all sorts of ailments, viruses, and diseases form...



Gotcha. Well I sure hope it doesn’t happen to you again!
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Re: Bear transmits infection to dog?

Postby Digger » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:29 pm

Goose wrote:DMSO was invented in my hometown and was manufactured here for years until the company sold out and moved, when I was a kid EVERYONE had DMSO, my pawpaw retired from the mill that the plant was located on and had drums of it, he used it for everything, especially swelling, he’d wrap his dogs joints in ace bandages and saturate them and they’d be ready to go the next night, whenever we got a cut or anything like that he’d put it on us and it wouldn’t be long you could taste it in your mouth, I always thought DMSO was used at the paper mill and it wasn’t until I was older and traveling around discovered it wasn’t used in paper production at all and was even more shocked to see folks buying it, I’ve seen people use it for all kinds of stuff from trying to prevent cancer by ingesting a teaspoon a day to putting it on snake bites...

DMSO is a byproduct of paper making, also used as a solvent.
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Re: Bear transmits infection to dog?

Postby Goose » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:32 am

Digger wrote:[quote="Goose"]DMSO was invented in my hometown and was manufactured here for years until the company sold out and moved, when I was a kid EVERYONE had DMSO, my pawpaw retired from the mill that the plant was located on and had drums of it, he used it for everything, especially swelling, he’d wrap his dogs joints in ace bandages and saturate them and they’d be ready to go the next night, whenever we got a cut or anything like that he’d put it on us and it wouldn’t be long you could taste it in your mouth, I always thought DMSO was used at the paper mill and it wasn’t until I was older and traveling around discovered it wasn’t used in paper production at all and was even more shocked to see folks buying it, I’ve seen people use it for all kinds of stuff from trying to prevent cancer by ingesting a teaspoon a day to putting it on snake bites...

DMSO is a byproduct of paper making, also used as a solvent.[/quote]

Well so I was right, the chemical plant was located within the paper mill, I’ve always used it in my mixes I make for raw feet because of its solvent properties...
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Re: Bear transmits infection to dog?

Postby Henefer-hound-hunter » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:07 pm

Goose wrote:
Digger wrote:[quote="Goose"]DMSO was invented in my hometown and was manufactured here for years until the company sold out and moved, when I was a kid EVERYONE had DMSO, my pawpaw retired from the mill that the plant was located on and had drums of it, he used it for everything, especially swelling, he’d wrap his dogs joints in ace bandages and saturate them and they’d be ready to go the next night, whenever we got a cut or anything like that he’d put it on us and it wouldn’t be long you could taste it in your mouth, I always thought DMSO was used at the paper mill and it wasn’t until I was older and traveling around discovered it wasn’t used in paper production at all and was even more shocked to see folks buying it, I’ve seen people use it for all kinds of stuff from trying to prevent cancer by ingesting a teaspoon a day to putting it on snake bites...

DMSO is a byproduct of paper making, also used as a solvent.


Well so I was right, the chemical plant was located within the paper mill, I’ve always used it in my mixes I make for raw feet because of its solvent properties...[/quote]

Sorry not trying to hi jack the thread , but If you don’t mind me asking what is your mixture for sore feet? I have a female that has been struggling with sore feet all winter, she is 4 and I’ve never had her feet get sore before. I think it has been a snow ball effect from the first lion hunt of winter it was nasty crusty snow and a long race! Her pads are fine and not tore up at all but it’s around her toe nails and between her toes that she bleeds. She gets a little more sore every week because I can’t afford to leave her home. Would your foot mixture help with this? Or any other ideas?
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Re: Bear transmits infection to dog?

Postby david » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:50 pm

[quote="Henefer-hound-hunter] She gets a little more sore every week because I can’t afford to leave her home. Would your foot mixture help with this? Or any other ideas?
Thanks[/quote]

Depending on what her role is: we used to have to hunt the crust if we were going to hunt at all. There was no question IF, it was how long will it take to destroy their feet and ankles. So we taped feet and ankles. We used duct tape. But can be slippery depending on if you turn the outside layer out or not. I would like to try the athletic cloth tapes to see how they do, or some rubber tape, but When I remembered it I didn’t need it and when I needed it I hadn’t remembered it. It was show up, go back home, or tape them up with what I had. It slows them down though. Some dogs hate it some don’t seem to even notice it. We have caught bobcats this way, but percentages go down. Not as far down as leaving them in the box or at home though.

If you do not rely on her for extreme speed on a jump, she will do very well with taped feet. You have to be careful to flex the ankles an press the feet out flat as you tape it or it will end up binding and restricting too much.

If it is snowy or icy and you are in bluff country, I wouldn’t do it unless I found some good friction tape.

Sled dog mushers use about $1,000 worth of dog booties (socks) for every major race. (They have to be changed out a couple times). We tried these also, but tape was free of problems and sled dog socks had a couple problems we never quite solved.

There is a product wal Mart sells called “miracle foot repair”. It is aloe Vera based and soothes and does speed healing of any skin issue (ankles/ between toes) if you can keep her feet protected. It is made for humans and is in the drugstore part.
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Re: Bear transmits infection to dog?

Postby Henefer-hound-hunter » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:22 pm

Ok thanks I’ll try anything at this point!
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Re: Bear transmits infection to dog?

Postby Goose » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:54 am

Henefer-hound-hunter wrote:[quote="Goose"][quote="Digger"][quote="Goose"]DMSO was invented in my hometown and was manufactured here for years until the company sold out and moved, when I was a kid EVERYONE had DMSO, my pawpaw retired from the mill that the plant was located on and had drums of it, he used it for everything, especially swelling, he’d wrap his dogs joints in ace bandages and saturate them and they’d be ready to go the next night, whenever we got a cut or anything like that he’d put it on us and it wouldn’t be long you could taste it in your mouth, I always thought DMSO was used at the paper mill and it wasn’t until I was older and traveling around discovered it wasn’t used in paper production at all and was even more shocked to see folks buying it, I’ve seen people use it for all kinds of stuff from trying to prevent cancer by ingesting a teaspoon a day to putting it on snake bites...

DMSO is a byproduct of paper making, also used as a solvent.[/quote]

Well so I was right, the chemical plant was located within the paper mill, I’ve always used it in my mixes I make for raw feet because of its solvent properties...[/quote]

Sorry not trying to hi jack the thread , but If you don’t mind me asking what is your mixture for sore feet? I have a female that has been struggling with sore feet all winter, she is 4 and I’ve never had her feet get sore before. I think it has been a snow ball effect from the first lion hunt of winter it was nasty crusty snow and a long race! Her pads are fine and not tore up at all but it’s around her toe nails and between her toes that she bleeds. She gets a little more sore every week because I can’t afford to leave her home. Would your foot mixture help with this? Or any other ideas?
Thanks[/quote]

Equal parts turpentine, pine tar, dmso, and coppertox, and a disinfectant such as iodine or novalsan, you can increase the pine tar to increase thickness, and apply liberally all over top of foot, pad, webbing, dew claw and up the ankle a little...


Have you ever thought about getting some sale barn glue that is used to apply the back tags, it’s some extremely tough stuff and would probably hold the crack of dawn together, apply it to the bottom of foot and stick the foot in hay, straw, shavings, or saw dust of some sort, and trim off what’s sticking out around edges of paw and repeat until several layers are built up...
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Re: Bear transmits infection to dog?

Postby perk » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:36 pm

Goose,
Turpentine is amazing for soreness, cut your finger, dip it in turpentine, will burn but soreness gone. I use it on dogs for soreness time time
Also is a good worm medicine when all the expensive brands fail to fix your dog.
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Re: Bear transmits infection to dog?

Postby Goose » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:20 am

perk wrote:Goose,
Turpentine is amazing for soreness, cut your finger, dip it in turpentine, will burn but soreness gone. I use it on dogs for soreness time time
Also is a good worm medicine when all the expensive brands fail to fix your dog.


Yep, my dad runs a corrugated packaging manufacturing plant here in town and has always kept a jug of turpentine there just for that, he makes whoever gets cut dump some on their finger or hand, they will scream like the devil is holding their hand but he don’t have to worry about them calling in sick the next day because of a sore finger it hand ( although they still do with some of the most bizarre excuses)...
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Re: Bear transmits infection to dog?

Postby david » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:24 am

I always thought of turpentine as a solvent for thinning paint, and it is. I guess artists who use paint prefer it.

But I did not know it was an old time remedy for many diseases. It is made from wood. People use it to worm themselves also. There are many video testimonials on you tube. Most notably an MD who got tired of her patients dying started studying turpentine as a cure. She started using it and her patients got well. She got so much grief from the drug industry she finally left the country and practices in another country but has patients from the USA.

It is amazing how many cures have been suppressed by the medical industry.

If they can’t patent it, they either pass laws against it, or vilify any doctor who dares use it.
It’s easy, create a news release labeling the doctor as a “quack”.

The tiny pharmacy here in town has turpentine on the shelf though. I got a kick out of that. It is in a little medicine bottle like a cough syrup bottle. Maybe all pharmacies carry it?

Perk, how do you administer it to your dog?

One of the ways people take it is they stack a few sugar cubes, and drip the turpentine on the cubes and take it. I did the protocol when I had lymes. Probably will never do it again as the taste is horrible. But then again, I don’t have the disease any more.
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Re: Bear transmits infection to dog?

Postby mark » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:47 am

Could the dog of possibly heat stroked?

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