living off the land???
living off the land???
Is there anyone out there that still takes out hunting on foot or horse back for months at a time with just themselves a few hounds and a few shells. I am only curious if anyone still just lives off the land without going in for supplies every day or two. How many of you out there would do with out electric city water a shower and these everyday pleasures. Interested in any replies.
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I used to spend the summers in a wall tent on the mountain just the hounds and I. I would walk the ridges, canyons and forests free casting the hounds. I trained many pups this way and learned alot myself about what was important and what really mattered in life. Sometimes it got a little scarey up there alone. Had to deal with summer snow storms in the high country, lightning, got turned around in the fog once, ran into some unsavory characters, and a few near misses on following the dogs in some nasty areas. Not to mention sleeping very soundly then 5 or 6 of my hounds going off in the middle of the night on their chains. Never knew what they were barking at, but I always had a gun right beside me to make me feel a bit better. Those were some of the best times of my life. I am beginning to think that with what direction this country is going I should just move up there permenantly!
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There are still a few that do it but like Larry said these are the guys you won't hear about or see much and they like it that way.Here's one of the reasons why.
Old Uncle Sammy don't care much for those types any more that say they are going to live off the land, after all the govt. has to be incharge and hadning out the crumps to the peons, now more than ever. The right away label anybody who goes off up in the hills and doesn't come down hardly at all as a kook. He must be making bomb, molesting children , growing dope, making moonshine, poaching game animals, and they harass the crap out of a person like that. They hate it when they can't control sombody.
I suppose a number of you have heard of the famous hunter and hound breeder from Califonia Al Lynn. Well all was a bit of a hermit and he lived out there with his dogs and he didn't need anything else. Some supplies now and then, and some fresh reading and writing material and he was good to go. Well it just got all over a lot of folks. Al was a master at gentics and was working on a hound breeding theory that was working with amazing success. But they didn't like old Al being out there poking around in them woods and hills all the time and they just couldn't beleive he was just a guy that loved to be alone with his thoughts and his dogs.So one day Al disappears no trace, no tracks nofinal investigation no nothing Al Lynn was rubbed out.
Buckaroo Claude Dallas one day decided he had even had enough of the ranch life and wagon outfits and decided to head out into the high desert and just be alone and not bother anybody and live off the land. Oh well he can't do that he is shooting a deer now and then for food and probably a rabbit sage chicken and who knows what else. He is kook and he walks around with that six shooter strapped on his hip and who does he think he is? So you know the story Pogue and Elms state game wardens(Note: no capitalization), track him down thru a friend and go to gather him in for the severe bad hombre that he was. Despite the fact that they probably drove past several crack houses, and sex offenders on the run. Well sometimes a guy gets pushed about as far as he can be pushed and sort of like that old tom lion backing up on the ledge when he finally gets his back up again the wall and no where to jump some $hit is fixun to happen. Well Claude made quite a story out of it but in the end they got their man.
Dale Lee use to camp in the White Mountains every summer up in the KP Creek Hannigans Meadow area. He liked the altitude there he could get in some hound training on cooler days and also collect some bounty money from the ranchers groups. Well as well known as the Lee Bros. were his camps got regular inspections from the law. Oh just dropped in to see how you was a doin Dale. What you got hung over there? Hmm lion ok well you ain't seen no poachers have ya?
The usaal crap and as much better as it was then Dale remarks back to the good days that Mr. Lilly had and nobody messed with him.Course he was labeled a cook too, but I don't rightly think that old Ben gave two hoots and a holler what anybody thought. LOL!
Old Uncle Sammy don't care much for those types any more that say they are going to live off the land, after all the govt. has to be incharge and hadning out the crumps to the peons, now more than ever. The right away label anybody who goes off up in the hills and doesn't come down hardly at all as a kook. He must be making bomb, molesting children , growing dope, making moonshine, poaching game animals, and they harass the crap out of a person like that. They hate it when they can't control sombody.
I suppose a number of you have heard of the famous hunter and hound breeder from Califonia Al Lynn. Well all was a bit of a hermit and he lived out there with his dogs and he didn't need anything else. Some supplies now and then, and some fresh reading and writing material and he was good to go. Well it just got all over a lot of folks. Al was a master at gentics and was working on a hound breeding theory that was working with amazing success. But they didn't like old Al being out there poking around in them woods and hills all the time and they just couldn't beleive he was just a guy that loved to be alone with his thoughts and his dogs.So one day Al disappears no trace, no tracks nofinal investigation no nothing Al Lynn was rubbed out.
Buckaroo Claude Dallas one day decided he had even had enough of the ranch life and wagon outfits and decided to head out into the high desert and just be alone and not bother anybody and live off the land. Oh well he can't do that he is shooting a deer now and then for food and probably a rabbit sage chicken and who knows what else. He is kook and he walks around with that six shooter strapped on his hip and who does he think he is? So you know the story Pogue and Elms state game wardens(Note: no capitalization), track him down thru a friend and go to gather him in for the severe bad hombre that he was. Despite the fact that they probably drove past several crack houses, and sex offenders on the run. Well sometimes a guy gets pushed about as far as he can be pushed and sort of like that old tom lion backing up on the ledge when he finally gets his back up again the wall and no where to jump some $hit is fixun to happen. Well Claude made quite a story out of it but in the end they got their man.
Dale Lee use to camp in the White Mountains every summer up in the KP Creek Hannigans Meadow area. He liked the altitude there he could get in some hound training on cooler days and also collect some bounty money from the ranchers groups. Well as well known as the Lee Bros. were his camps got regular inspections from the law. Oh just dropped in to see how you was a doin Dale. What you got hung over there? Hmm lion ok well you ain't seen no poachers have ya?
The usaal crap and as much better as it was then Dale remarks back to the good days that Mr. Lilly had and nobody messed with him.Course he was labeled a cook too, but I don't rightly think that old Ben gave two hoots and a holler what anybody thought. LOL!
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Mr. Leonard I respect you more then most on these boards, but I will have to disagree with you on Dallas. The man wasn't anything more romantic or nastalgic then a poacher and a murder. I wish they would have done the old west with him, tall tree and a short rope. IMHO
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Well Mike, since Machias disagreed with you about Claude Dallas (of whom I know nothing) I guess I will dispute your opinion of the Al Lynn situation. At the time that happened I was corresponding with Al who had promised me a pup. After not hearing from him for awhile, I received a letter from his daughter informing me of the circumstances. She asked me to talk to a friend of Al's about the young dogs. I did so (can't remember his name) and in the conversation he told me about Al's disappearance. Although they never found his body, they did not believe that there was anything nefarious about his disappearance. He had been having chest pains, but went hunting anyway.
This not to imply I believe that I believe our government is above making mistakes, jumping to unwarranted conclusions or actually resorting to illegal activities when they want something. Far from it.
Regards,
Wade Fikes
This not to imply I believe that I believe our government is above making mistakes, jumping to unwarranted conclusions or actually resorting to illegal activities when they want something. Far from it.
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Boy I would like to jump in on this one. The law is def. against these kind. I know, I was one of them. To make enough meat you must break the law.
And to do that is know good this day and age. Someone is always watching, wanting to make a few points with the law.
And to do that is know good this day and age. Someone is always watching, wanting to make a few points with the law.
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The world has gotten to small, to do it legaly you would have to live on your own land. And raise some sort of meat animal because you can't just go out and shoot a deer or other big game animal just to eat anymore... gota be a tag ect. Even if you had enough land where you had plenty of game on it.. those game animals are "owned" by the state and by extension all the tax paying customers.
The world is getting smaller everyday and there is realy not that many areas where a person could lose themselves anymore. Here in AZ you can't stay more than 14 days in a month on National forest.. and I think its that way in most states.
The world is getting smaller everyday and there is realy not that many areas where a person could lose themselves anymore. Here in AZ you can't stay more than 14 days in a month on National forest.. and I think its that way in most states.
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The world is getting smaller everyday and there is realy not that many areas where a person could lose themselves anymore. Here in AZ you can't stay more than 14 days in a month on National forest.. and I think its that way in most states
Actually you can only "legally" stay 14 days in one spot on National Forest land then you have to move at least 5 air miles where you can then stay another 14 days and so on. Like I said I spent many summers up in the Big Horns doing this. If you get far enough out in the wilderness you can stay longer in one area as you see they have to see you to know how long you have been in camp in one area before they can tell you to move.
By the way I brought the basic staples with me and had a fishing license and fishing line to eat fish when I chose to.
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times have changed alot,you can't go live off the land,i hunt hounds all winter long,well into spring.the long arm of the law,keeps a eye on full time hunters,trappers,outdoorsmen.i camp ten to fourteen days at a time to lion hunt,three or four times a winter.i take supplies to get by on.cause the game & fish are touchy about lion hunting,houndsmen in general.if your cuttin,your livin out the woods illegally,running cats.johnny law is going to be running your track,he don't open on track much,but he's tree's like a bastard! so keep a eye on your back track,the days living off the land are all but done in most places. my two cents