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Hey all,
Was hopeing someone could shed some light.
I have heard that in some southern states you can hunt whitetail with hounds.
Is this true? How Many? Whats the season? Are whitetail the only species allowed.

Our Season starts second weekend after easter and runs till the end of November ( the cooler months in Aust.).
We have no bag limit on deer but we have a limit of 5 hounds per hunt and they can only be Bloodhounds or Beagles.

We can still run them with hounds. Our season is september to January.
We typically use running walkers (fox hounds) beagles and crosses of the two. We surround a block of woods, release the hounds and with any luck you will be able to put yourself in the deer's path. Usually use shotguns with buckshot. Whitetail is the only kind of deer we have here but there is no limmit on bucks. You have to buy tags or wait till certain days to kill does.

Hey Pig Snacher
Thanks for the info.
We used Foxhounds as did everyone up until 6 years ago when they were banned.
Our foxhounds had been bred into what should have been called a Sambar Hound.
Some were pure bred but many had 1/8 Bloodhound, some a bit of coon hound, bluetick.

Our hounds must now be assessed and registered to hunt with.

Wish it wasn't the case as i don't care what they look like as long as they hunt.

that sucks
you guys will end up like england pretty soon., runnin pretend animals haha
but hell
it'll be like that round here one day..

What was the reason to bann most breeds as deer hunters? Fox hounds too fast and can acualy catch a deer? Rules like that just don't make alot of sence to me unless there is a movment to bann hunting totaly and they are chipping away where ever they can... Those deer were introduced for hunting right?

In the US its only the southeastern stats where running dogs with deer is allowed. Can't do it here in Arizona and if your dog runs deer its very likly he will be shot, I train mine right away that deer are off limits. And also during deer season I stay out of the most used areas.

i believe its the gun hunters that make the rules because they have the biggest numbers ,i know that when they put a total ban on hunting with dogs in alberta it was only the lion hounds that could still hunt and i was told it was because the gun hunters wanted it that way because they still wanted to hunt them ,i know that when i was complaining to everyone about loseing the right to hunt the way i did i was told i was the only one that had complained about it ,its been about 4 -5 years since they did this and i still think its the same there now but i have been out of the country for about 3 1/2 years so may have changed again
Ian

The still hunters are pushing for restrictions here now. They move here from god only knows where, buy 5 acres in the middle of 60,000 acres that is hounted by dogs and then gripe about them.

They are also pushing for antler restrictions and limmits because they got suckered on crappy hunting land that has been shot out and is not big enough for them to mannage like the King ranch, so they want to force mannage every one around them.



For those new residents of SC that dont like the way we do things, I offer free directions "back home".

The Foxhounds were banned after a couple of bad incidents viewed by the public with hounds assisting a deer off his feet.
The hounds do catch up with the deer even if it takes all day at which stage they will bail him up ( deer stands or walks with dogs baying the same as a treed cat.)
They don't always make it to bail as we try to cut off every know run out of there which isn't as easy as it sounds.

The hunting of Sambar with hounds in Oz seems fairly good at the moment.
After having major bush fires 2 and 5 years ago the population is still on the rise and hound hunting is seen as the best form of control. The state bordering our northern boundery New South Wales is looking at having some controlled trial hunts this year to see how they go. They have large populations of Sambar, Fallow, Red, and Rusa.

We are not allowed to shoot them with Shotguns anymore and the minimum calibre is .270. I use a Remington 7600 pump that was one of a special order of 200 made just for Victoria hound hunters. Its a 35 Whelan with 18" barrel.

Hound hunting is the same the world over! Once it's in your blood there no stopping.

You can hunt deer with dogs in California (turkeys too), this is the only state in the west that allows both. It mostly takes place on the central coast.

Wow learned something new today! Never would have guessed you could hunt deer with dogs in California let alone turkey!... how about lions? I guess Cali is not as liberal as I hear then.

We have a few turkey here and my new pup treed them a few times last year, I didn't bother telling him no cause there is no way he is going to catch one.

Hey Liz
I assume that it's only whitetail though.

I hunted with Clear Sands Outfitters in Saskatchewan in November 06 and shot a nice buck. Am thinking about heading back to a mate's place in Utah in October and run some lions, lynx, bobcat with his hounds.

Not to good on the computer so i will try and get some help to put some pic's up of the mighty Sambar Stags and pooches of coarse.

Nope, no whitetails here yet (Thank God!), mostly blacktails getting run on the coast. No we can't hunt lions here, I suppose the deer dogging is still legal here because its pretty under the radar even though it is still legal. In fact the one dog per hunter during deer season rule that we have here was actually put on the books to protect deer from deer hunters (not to keep hound hunters from supposedly ruining some guys deer hunt; this is what the new spot and stalk/ride in the truck and shoot deer hunters would like to have you believe). No, that law was was put into effect to keep guys from actually catching deer with the dogs as I guess it was becoming an issue at one time. It is very rare to find anyone that will admit to this little known fact (being as it has been turned into a hound hunter against deer hunter thing now), you have to research it yourself.
I would love to see some photos, I have seen a few in the aussie hunting magazines...but those magazines were back when bulldogs and running dogs were still legal in your country. Have seen some cool photos from France of stag hunting where they kill with a spear. Turkey dogs....I have a couple of goofy mutts that strike them off the box! It doesn't add up to a race as the turks fly off, sometimes annoying but mostly I just laugh! I think the turkey dogging is mostly done in the spring they use the dogs to find and bust the turkeys out and then call them back in 'traditional' style. But I always though the treeing them deal would be funner

Liz ODell wrote:Nope, no whitetails here yet (Thank God!), mostly blacktails getting run on the coast. No we can't hunt lions here, I suppose the deer dogging is still legal here because its pretty under the radar even though it is still legal. In fact the one dog per hunter during deer season rule that we have here was actually put on the books to protect deer from deer hunters (not to keep hound hunters from supposedly ruining some guys deer hunt; this is what the new spot and stalk/ride in the truck and shoot deer hunters would like to have you believe). No, that law was was put into effect to keep guys from actually catching deer with the dogs as I guess it was becoming an issue at one time. It is very rare to find anyone that will admit to this little known fact (being as it has been turned into a hound hunter against deer hunter thing now), you have to research it yourself.
I would love to see some photos, I have seen a few in the aussie hunting magazines...but those magazines were back when bulldogs and running dogs were still legal in your country. Have seen some cool photos from France of stag hunting where they kill with a spear. Turkey dogs....I have a couple of goofy mutts that strike them off the box! It doesn't add up to a race as the turks fly off, sometimes annoying but mostly I just laugh! I think the turkey dogging is mostly done in the spring they use the dogs to find and bust the turkeys out and then call them back in 'traditional' style. But I always though the treeing them deal would be funner

California laws really confuse me as to why they are the way they are. I do not understand why that you cannot hunt cats with hounds, but you can hunt bears and as you just stated deer. But yet the state will pay government hunters to control the cat population with hounds. Why would a state government rather pay when they could receive revenues from hunters to get the same result?

it's because referendums are directly voted so an uban area can screw the whole state. if it could be changed so that a majority of precints (even better counties) had to be won the rural areas could protect themselves in states like WA & OR. even NY & IL could be fixed this way.

I hunt Roedeer and Redstag with my beagle here in Norway.
We are not allowed to use hounds higher than 16,5" running those species and its not thought of as good huntsmanship to use more than one hound at the time.

If you have a early opener, that does'nt have to high speed, you're in for a blast of a hunt(in my opinion). The deer will move in circles/loops in the terrain, moving fast and slow, around and about. Doing this alone, you can move around, trying to predict where the deer is comming next. Lots of fun!

Hans