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Jagdterriers (German Hunting Terrier)

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:47 pm
by Mackdog
I have been running coonhounds for cats/bear/coons for a couple years. A friend introduced me to this breed of terriers, the Jagdterrier. I was just wondering if anyone has hunted with or around these dogs or knows anything about them related to hunting.

Re: Jagdterriers (German Hunting Terrier)

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:34 pm
by Brinkdog
go to the hog hunting forum and find longshot he hog hunts with them

Re: Jagdterriers (German Hunting Terrier)

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:01 pm
by nitestalker
i hunt jagds. first off they are a pain in the butt :D but a grittier, tougher, prey driven dog u won't find. have a nose similar to a good cur. some tree some dont. some run track open some don't. they are hard headed when young. one word of advise hunt before u buy, wiether that be started dogs or parents of pups. some people are producing "jagds" from questionable stock or unhunted stock.

Brian Harlow

Re: Jagdterriers (German Hunting Terrier)

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:26 pm
by Hermit
i have had 4 jagd's and ended up letting them all go ,all of the one's i had i had problems at the kill site with the other dogs it was always the jagd's that started fighting , they are good dogs but there are a lot out there like the one's i had , if i ever found one that was not like this i would try another

Re: Jagdterriers (German Hunting Terrier)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:39 am
by Sammy
Hermit wrote:i have had 4 jagd's and ended up letting them all go ,all of the one's i had i had problems at the kill site with the other dogs it was always the jagd's that started fighting , they are good dogs but there are a lot out there like the one's i had , if i ever found one that was not like this i would try another

I have one and I've never had any problems like that. He is pound for pound the toughest dog I've ever seen though. Mine lives in the same kennel as my plott male and they get along great. Actually mine is for sale if you know anyone who is interested.

Re: Jagdterriers (German Hunting Terrier)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:55 am
by broncobilly
If he's such a good dog, why is he for sale, and how much are you asking for him.

Bill

Re: Jagdterriers (German Hunting Terrier)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:20 am
by African
I have been working with a Deutsche Jagdterrier pack here in Germany for 2 seasons now and can perhaps give you a little of my opinion.If you are by nature a houndsmen then you have to change all your ingrained style and mindset to accomodate the Terrier character.
They have grit, drive and all that ...... - intelligent enough, but nothing that superseeds a good hound.The only benefits I have discovered are they eat less and take up less space.(On pigs they still get injured but the area of the wound is often less extensive and severe - less weight.I have although seen on several occasions where the pigs have broken the leg bones of the little terriers with a single bite).

If you want to hunt Jagdterriers alone, then be prepared for a split race of each number of individuals you drop.If you mix them with hounds then carry a stick to stop the fighting at the tree or dead animal.Here they are kenneled individually but still find a way to tear into each others lips through the mesch.
They have cool characters and can be valuable in dense bush or tight crevices but it is wise to lead them in by leash to the fight/kill and leash them up immediately thereafter.

I suppose it is also important to understand the origins of the breed and for what they were bred.Here hunting territories are small and the common hunter wants a dog which is an 'all rounder' and specialist in none.The dog must not range too far and be able to be directed onto a blood trail after a wounded deer, or pushed into a branberry thicket to flush the pigs, or coaxed into an earth after a fox or badger.The selectors during breeding never had the idea to cold trail a 12 hr old track and then bay an animal for hours.That was the intention of the hound breeder.
The Jagdterrrier hits the ground running.
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Re: Jagdterriers (German Hunting Terrier)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:38 am
by Hermit
sammy
there is a difference in some of the jagd's that are in the US ,from what i have seen you get your good and bad as in all dogs but the fighters that i have had all seem to be one's from the good hunting lines out of germany , a lot of the jagd's that have been around in the US for a few years seem to have lost some of the drive that these dogs have and do not seem to be as good in the hunting field ,i n the last couple of years there has been a lot more dogs that have been brought over to the US so you may start to see a lot more of this fighting that i have posted about , i am also sure like your post that you will see a lot of posts from others that would be different from mine

Re: Jagdterriers (German Hunting Terrier)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:13 am
by Sammy
Hermit wrote:sammy
there is a difference in some of the jagd's that are in the US ,from what i have seen you get your good and bad as in all dogs but the fighters that i have had all seem to be one's from the good hunting lines out of germany , a lot of the jagd's that have been around in the US for a few years seem to have lost some of the drive that these dogs have and do not seem to be as good in the hunting field ,i n the last couple of years there has been a lot more dogs that have been brought over to the US so you may start to see a lot more of this fighting that i have posted about , i am also sure like your post that you will see a lot of posts from others that would be different from mine

I'm sure what your saying is right. Even though my dog is as intense on prey as anything I have ever seen, from what I here that doesn't compare to the true german dogs. I love my little dog. The only reason he is for sale is because he doesn't get used that much. When I got him I thought it would be neat to have a hole dog for coon and bobs. Of all the coon we caught this fall and winter we only put one down a hole( and Dodger went in and brought him out just like he was supposed to), also alot of the time when we go bob hunting he gets left home. So I just thought maybe someone who was gonna get more use out of him would be interested.

Re: Jagdterriers (German Hunting Terrier)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:41 pm
by Hermit
sammy
seeing dogs from both sides of the world you do see dogs in the US that are good dogs but they are not the best nobody sends there best dogs to others i can say that as far as jagd's and patterdales or fells (both the same) you have not seen the best dogs in the US the breeders just send what they have unless you know a good breeder that you can rust , when it comes to earth work breeders will send there smallest because this is the size that you use there the dogs are bigger over here

Re: Jagdterriers (German Hunting Terrier)

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:49 pm
by nitestalker
hermit i agree, that alot of the dogs in the US are sub par, but if u dig into these dogs a little deeper, they are coming from a couple sources i will not metion who, but most terriers guys know who i'm speaking of. There is some real good dogs in the US but they are produced and bred by hunters, who are breeding best to best with only performance in mind, just like the originators of the breed. U also see alot of US jagds that look terrible, bad pin heads,pin assed, lack of bone, tall and frail build. Not to mention some of the problems on game, no drive as mentioned before, no nose, no grit, and no 5th gear that the jagd is famous for.

sammy that dodger dog is a good dog or heath wouldn't have kept him, think long and hard about getting rid of him, i think you'll be sorry


Brian Harlow

Re: Jagdterriers (German Hunting Terrier)

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:21 am
by Sammy
Thank you Brian. I dont know you at all but the people that know me and know my dog know that he is exactly what I say he is I just didnt want to get into a big arguement with people who dont have anything better to do than run somebody else's dog down. I'm just not into that kind of hunting, where you need a good hole dog, if I was I would'nt even think of getting rid of him. And if people dont believe me I have plenty of references that have seen Dodger at work. DODGER'S A STUD AND I KNOW IT.

Re: Jagdterriers (German Hunting Terrier)

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:10 am
by Hermit
nitestalker
i know the sources that the dogs have come from i also know that there are some good dogs in the US and canada and would say what you have said is right dogs are in good hands and with the right breeding things will get a hole lot better for the jagd's my posts have been about what i see now not what i see in the dogs future as i also believe that the jagd will develop into a dog that will be good for the people hunting it there ,i believe that the jagd will end up being the most used small terrier in the US because of the way it hunts which i think tie's in better with the way hunting is done in the US than any other small terrier but as i posted before this is only my views and i am sure others will have there own views on this that would be different from my own

Re: Jagdterriers (German Hunting Terrier)

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:18 pm
by CoosCatHunter
A friend of mine breeds and hunts jags. He get's dogs shipped from Germany. These are super gritty little dogs to hunt with. He hunts a lot of bear with them. The main problem we have had with these is that they tend to get too close to a bear on the ground. Every time my friend gets a dog that turn into something really good, it ends up getting killed before it turns 2. They are born hunters though.

Re: Jagdterriers (German Hunting Terrier)

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:30 pm
by Rockcreek
Sammy- I sold Dodger to Heath and he is a fine dog. If you are really going to sell him, please pm me your contact info, I know some people that are very interested.

There are dogs in the U.S. that are every bit as good,as the dogs in Europe. They are hunted hard and culled ruthlessly. They just aren't for sale very often. If you want a damn good WORKING Jagdterrier... Call Sammy and buy Dodger! Take care.