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hey folks,

just curious. I been thinking of just getting one dog an finishing it out, I think it should be fine before getting another but have heard from one or to people that you should have two for bobcats but i think you can do it with just one? plus that way you know exactly what that dog does an dont do. just curious what others oppinions are i know what i will do but would love to hear some insite to this.

Stacy
My opinion is that a dog should be able to do it all. From starting the track to locating in the tree. Anything else is indesirable. That being said, I also believe once they will do it on thier own they should be put back into the pack so they will learn to honour the other dogs.

For bobs two dogs is about right. Two dogs that can catch on thier own that will honour the other dog will put way more pressure on the bob to climb.
This is way over simplfying a opinion and there are exeptions.
Just my 2 cents. RS

I think you are doing it right. I would get a pup from a very very very hard hunter and I would make sure it had the most forward disposition it could have. Spooky pups aint worth owning and they never ever ever no matter what miracle story people tell you turn out to be worth feeding. Anyhow, I would raise this pup up right and start taking it for walks in the woods. In two year or a little better maybe you will have a dog and then you can get another pup and do the same shit with it. In five years you will have more than most others that have been at it 25 years. Alot of us have too many dogs and it shows from time to time. Most all of us have been guilt of it too even though we try not to be.

Stacy, it is better to just start one young hound at a time on bobcats if you do not have and older vetran cat dog. If a person tries to start more than one young dog at a time on bobcats you will have a big mess. It can be done but not as enjoyable. Also make sure your young dog is from a strong bobcat back ground of hounds, this makes it easier in the long run. later Andy

And don't forget that there is a big difference between a real bobcat dog and a lion dog.

I guess there was alot more to them posts that I knew about. Sorry I got mixed up in whatever that was all about. LOL!

Man this post is trouble.

I got to thinking about what R. Severe said and I thought you know that is something I really need to do with this one young female walker I have that is doing so well. So I decided I would take her out by herself and see how she would make out on this one big tom lion I have been trying to catch.

Well she struck his track right off and she was really carrying it at a fast rate of speed. The area is pretty bare very few trees and not any realy high bluffs. Well in just a bit I knew she had him jumped, and then in just a minute I heard her make the catch and the fight was on.

I ran for all I was worth but I never got there in time and I really felt terrible. My beautiful little 45 pound walker female had got ahold of that big tom and just shook him to death, and then ate about five pounds of butt steak off him...





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Mike Leonard wrote:Man this post is trouble.

I got to thinking about what R. Severe said and I thought you know that is something I really need to do with this one young female walker I have that is doing so well. So I decided I would take her out by herself and see how she would make out on this one big tom lion I have been trying to catch.

Well she struck his track right off and she was really carrying it at a fast rate of speed. The area is pretty bare very few trees and not any realy high bluffs. Well in just a bit I knew she had him jumped, and then in just a minute I heard her make the catch and the fight was on.

I ran for all I was worth but I never got there in time and I really felt terrible. My beautiful little 45 pound walker female had got ahold of that big tom and just shook him to death, and then ate about five pounds of butt steak off him...





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Mike, doesn't it have to be remotely believable to be a good april fools???? Maybe if you hunted plotts

lol that was good mike! Im glad to hear what everyone has to say. I can honestly say that I have learned alot since hopping on this site.

Larry you might be right. LOL!

Speaking of plotts I have owned a lot of them over the years. I was a member of the NPHA for many years and really enjoyed a lot of the old time plott hunters I got to talk to. Clyde Neader, Olin Greer, Gordon Pace, Willis Butolph, Dale Bradenburger, Everetty Weems, Larry Nabors, Leroy Haug, Gene White,Oliver Smith, Chuck Griffon, Bobby Archuleta, Pete Dominquez,Wendall Hatch, Obe Cory, and many others. My greatest plott was a dog called Bearpath Hawk a direct son of Bearpath Gunner. He was cold nosed, and had grit to spare. He had the most ghostly long wavering bawl mouth on a cold trail. Problem I had with this dog is he was really making a name for himself as a bear dog, but he was just as good on lion and coon. I had gone thru a divorce and at one time Hawk and my saddle was about all I had and so even though a lot of folks tried to buy him I wouldn't sell. Well a theif doesn't let that hold him back and he was stolen and never recovered. Even thought I posted photos all over and he had my ML freeze brand on his right hip never a word. Sort of soured me on life for a bit.

I had many other good plotts sons and daughters of Pioneer Thundering Echo, Pioneer Slim, Cascade Boulder, Easy Money, some Weems dogs, and even some Swampland dogs from Leroy Haug.

I still have a soft spot for the brindles and if I still hunted bear and kept more hounds like I use to I would still have some plotts. Not that they also don't make great cat dogs becasue they do and some of the best I ever saw were plotts. but I got started back in these walkers the type I orginally started with back in the early 70's and for the deer and elk and occasional lion I run they do ok. LOL!

Good luck to you and have fun.

Dang Mike, forgot what day it was
Note to self, read Mike's post's from bottom to the top on 1 april

Why is it that none of the lion hunters want to run them stinkin ass bear anymore? HAHA! I think I know why, I just hope that I never get to feeling that way about these coyotes. It will be back to running them junky ass coon dogs again. LOL!

Good posts Mike.

Oh I really enjoy bear hunting and probably would still run them but the biggest reason I gave it up is the change in the seasons. No spring season anymore. fall season all broken up and only open in a few areas where it is wall to wall hunters. and the biggest reason of all because Colorado is where I loved to hunt bear, and they shut the hounds down completly on bear. so why keep bear dogs to run a few weeks out of the year? Some guys travel a lot and that works out for them but not all have the luxury.

I see. I have just hear alot of the "older"(lol!) lion hunters say that they dont want to run bear no more.

I can certainly understand in from a physical standpoint. Bear hunting many times is a grueling sport. Lots of marathon walks into and out of the canyons. I miss those because generally cat hunting I don't get quite as much excercize as the horse does a lot of the walking. but still you can ride all of the areas or where they usually tree or bay so you get some walking done.It still is advisable for anybody planning a bare ground lion hunt to get in good walking shape because a lot of times you have to get off and climb or crawl to get to that trophy.

I have a network of mountain bike trails very close to my place and I go over there two or three times a week and run a few miles on these and that really helps when you have to walk to stay with the dogs.