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ariegeoisxGascon pups.

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:45 am
by TheFrenchHoundsman
Hi,
Some pictures of my ariegeoisxGascon pups. 2 weeks

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Re: ariegeoisxGascon pups.

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:26 pm
by TheFrenchHoundsman
Here is an article on Gascons saintongeois of Christine and Christophe Royer
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Re: ariegeoisxGascon pups.

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:32 pm
by Majestic Tree Hound
Well if you need a home for one of those Females Just let me Know !!!

Re: ariegeoisxGascon pups.

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:54 pm
by liontracker
Do you expect that these pups will be like a petite Gascon Saintongeois, only more hare minded? The Royer article looks interesting, I see some reference to very good scenting ability. I will have to take the time to translate it.

Re: ariegeoisxGascon pups.

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:36 pm
by TheFrenchHoundsman
Yes I want my pups look like petit Gascon, but to hunt boar, pups's parents are very "rapprocheurs", when they hunt a cold track of boar they bark like wolf (ouuuu!!!! ouuuuu !!!). The morning we search a track of the night, and the afternoon we go with hounds, so maybe 10-15 hours track, we never hunt when it snow, we can hunt like this in summer and in winter, no problems. Here , the boar hunt is very difficult, if you haven't good hounds you can't find boar, they are very, very, very wildness, they eat only in the dark night and when the hunt come, they travel very long distance(10, 20 miles) in the night to find the more confident place. In the early saison, it's easy to find them !!!, but like every lands are hunting, this comes rapidly difficult !!! Of course, we have hounds. We love hunt boar, because in France, it's the animal that travel the more, it's the most intelligent. Unfortunately, we have no wolf to hunt, because wolf was a very difficult hunt, and we love this.

Sorry for my english

Quentin

Re: ariegeoisxGascon pups.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:46 am
by TheFrenchHoundsman
Here are some pages of an old book on the ancestors of the Gascon. This might be of interest

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Re: ariegeoisxGascon pups.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:24 pm
by liontracker
In the process of translating these pages I noticed that there is more on the Saintonge, at least page 22 is missing. Could you please post the missing pages from the Saintonge?
Also, is there a chapter on the Gascon Saintongeois? Thanks

Re: ariegeoisxGascon pups.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:31 am
by TheFrenchHoundsman
there is no chapter on the Gascon Saintongeois because when this book was write, Gascon Saintongeois didn't exist again (1889). But Gascon Saintongeois is a crossbreeding of Gascon with Saintonge

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Re: ariegeoisxGascon pups.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:58 pm
by liontracker
Thanks French. Does this book mention the Black and the White St. Hubert Bloodhound? How about the Saintonge Grey Hound?

I am very impressed with the Gascon Saintongeois pups I have. They are unlike anything in the US.

Re: ariegeoisxGascon pups.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:02 am
by TheFrenchHoundsman
It speaks of 2 breeds of St Hubert, the white (Talbot), which has disappeared, certainly the ancestor of Gascon Saintongeois, and the black (Blood-Hounds) which means purebred, it exists today, but I can tell you that the current Blood-Hound, in general, is less good for hunting because it is not used for hunting. The current Gascons Saintongeois have a much better sense of smell to hunt. Today The high quality of St. Hubert is to keep changing, ie not changing animal or human when he track, the Gason Saintongeois too.

nothing on the Saintonge grey Hound

All French Hounds come from 4 breeds :- St Hubert (blood-Hound and Talbot)
- Great white hounds of King
- Fauves de Bretagne Hound
- Grey Hound of St Louis

Re: ariegeoisxGascon pups.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:48 pm
by liontracker
Thanks for helping me out here. Could you also post on the (white)Talbot and (black)Blood-Hounds?
What do you know of the Great White Hounds of King and the St. Louis Greyhound?

My GS have an extremely fine nose and a superior ability to persevere on an old track. They are also very intelligent. These traits are just what are needed for old dryground lion tracks. These GS pups are very unique and unlike any hound I have seen. I want to learn all I can about this GS breed.

Re: ariegeoisxGascon pups.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:52 pm
by TheFrenchHoundsman
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Re: ariegeoisxGascon pups.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:00 pm
by TheFrenchHoundsman
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Re: ariegeoisxGascon pups.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:47 pm
by liontracker
Thanks again Quentin. That was a good article on the Royers. I will read the pages you sent on the Blood-Hound.

- Also, I read: the temperment of a bloodhound was aggressive towards it's own kind as well as humans. Even in 1889 .... If a man was to breed up a strain of hounds from those ancestors, for say 30 years, that could explain why I see aggressive behavior in present times.

- What do hunters and breeders notice in the way of aggression from the Gascon Saintongeois and the Aregeois hounds?

Re: ariegeoisxGascon pups.

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:49 am
by TheFrenchHoundsman
Liontracker, if a GS is aggressive towards human, for no reason, you don't must keep this hound.
I've never had or seen a GS who was aggressive towards me or somebody (even beaten), sometimes maybe with other hounds, this's not worrying. Some are very jealous.