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WILEY CAROL

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:14 am
by BEAR HUNTER
Did a google search looking for Mountain lion hunting info. Came across this website
www.archive.org/details/huntingamericanl001726mbp. It's Wiley Carols book "Hunting the american lion". In it he tells of meeting/hunting/interviewing Ben Lilly. Some interesting stuff. It will hurt you eyes if you try to read the whole thing all at once but it is definetly worth reading.
The book is online and free to read. Just go to the above web site and click on it. Up it comes all 205 pages.

Re: WILEY CAROL

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:16 pm
by Mike Leonard
The book ( Hunting American Lions) BEARHUNTER is referring to is a different one written by Frank C Hibben Professor or Palentology at the University of New Mexico. Mr. Hibben was also a gifted writer and an International Big Game Hunter of much fame he won the coveted Weatherby Award one year as well.This is another fine book and it does tell about Mr. Hibbens excursion with Ben Lilly.

Mr. Hibben also wrote ( Hunting American Bears) and tell soof his many hound hunts
with some of the greats.


Wiley Carrol never met Mr. Lilly but later in life recieved a handwritten diary from Lilly's relitives. He gave me a copy of it as well as the book he wrote.

HISTORY OF AMERICAN LION HUNTING..which is still available from High Lonesome Books in Silver City New Mexico.



Both great additions to any houndsmen's library.

Re: WILEY CAROL

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:09 pm
by BEAR HUNTER
Thanks for the correction Mike. It is an interesting read. Ben Lilly seems like an interesting character. Anyone know where and when he finaly died?

Re: WILEY CAROL

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:21 pm
by houndnhorse
In December of 1936, at what they called the County Farm in Grant County. I wnet there a few years ago, and also went by his memorial. What a man he was.

Re: WILEY CAROL

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:03 pm
by Mike Leonard
Ben was certainly a hunter but a very perculiar idividual. I would say he would not have functioned well in a modern world and where he was regemented by routine, he more than likely would have snapped.

I think Ben was quite intelligent although not learned from education. He was high strung and hyper he needed very little rest, he had little or no empathy for people or animals if they did not suit him. He was very posessed with killing varmints as he called them. He would wipe and area out and then move on. He nearly wiped the bears and panthers out of the Big Thicket country by himself.

I would say Ben although gifted with unusual talents and extreme stamina may very well have been what the mental health world calls an Idio Savant. Funny but Hitler was diagnosed with this and he although different had these same traits.The reading of the Good Book all day on what Ben called his sabbath was a trait that was more than just purley religious. Many Autistic people display these same traits but Autism which is thought to trace to mercury was non excistant in Ben's time period.


This makes him non the less the great hunter that he was but very few normal hunters would have enjoyed spending much time with old Ben or living the way he did. I don't think I could ever get use to sleeping only 4 hours a night while standing up leaning on a tree. LOL!

Re: WILEY CAROL

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:55 am
by livetohunt
Boy you were right about the eyes wow I cant even see to type now.
Hey B.H. why don't you print that up for me.... :lol:
Thanks for the info hows the pups. Chris

Re: WILEY CAROL

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:44 pm
by liontracker
Hey guys, your tool bar should have a zoom button somewhere.

Re: WILEY CAROL

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:12 pm
by Lynxhunter
Thanks BEARHUNTER! Great reading in my eyes....
I opened the .pdf version and showed it in 100% and that worked for me...

Hans