We need to have our heads examined folks!
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:56 pm
How is it when a fellow houndsmen crosses the line we are quick to condemn them publically for illegal hunting activity and roll over when it comes to what replaced our hounds in certain States and no public outcry such as right here in Oregon?....Let me post the words from Direct emails from our Government officials here in Oregon and you make the comparison. I for one happen to have a gut full of an out of control Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife bent on sticking hounds up our blank, every chance it gets while committing crimes so egregious it makes the woman biologist in Corvallis Oregon puke, so sickening by her own account....Here is what happens across Oregon.
My first transmission with USDA head Williams in Portland Oregon over the cougar eradication program...My position? Politicians don't approve of hounds? How is it they authorize the slaughter of cougars on the backs of it's tax paying citizens with the use of Government / contractor hounds?
USDA Williams to Mike; if your questions is.... Are we to take a female cougar and her kittens should we encounter them in our equipment or have them treed over hounds then my response is; whoever is doing the administrative removal of cougars (Wildlife Services or other ODFW agents) they are to pursue cougars randomly and should they capture a female with kittens then all of them are to be euthanized by the agent.
Doesn't the word randomly sound like at random? Is this simply go kill all you can? You decide!
My second email is direct from ODFW Administrator Anglin.
Cougars killed on Damage can be kept by the landowner. Some keep them, some don't
Cougars killed in the target areas are primarily hauled to the landfills.
My third email is from Program game manager, Thomas Thornton over the missing first year baby cubs in the FOIA reports.
Me to Thornton
How can you have one hundred eighty nine second year cubs in the five year black bear report and only five first year cubs? Something is out of place? I would like to know where those first year baby cubs ended up? The report should mirror, plus or minus the second year cub report? Thank you!
Mike; as you know the first year cubs weigh so little, 10-12 pounds. ODFW has authorized the contractors and USDA to kill them and bury them in the field when accompanied by the sow caught in the snares on Western Oregon timber damage units.
So now folks, ODFW has Government sold on you and I doing these administrative removals and Salem believing it is all of us and not the Government and contractors....Every year HSUS is confused when we have our annual meeting to discuss reinstating sport hounds for this reason in our legislative sessions.
Here is another thorn in my blank....Ron Anglin to me...Mike without hounds? Sport hunters can't meet management objectives is why we authorize the snare program with no restraints!
What does this mean? Without your hounds and mine, they are sunk...So why not say it to the politicians?
I followed our local guys who are bear contractors and quite efficient in their profession. One year the reports indicated the average sow age was three years old. This is about when the sow comes of breeding age.
Over the last five years I have been building my case with Mr. Green who is the guy extracting the bear tooth and compiling the harvest data and he concurs with my analogy behind the scenes....Management or eradication. I say eradication when those first year cubs are buried like they never were born! How can this be disputed?
This legislative session in February begins with another round of sport hound hunting for cougar and these public officials need to answer the tough question with the truth....You don't like our hounds? Fine. lets just eliminate all of them along with the snares and see how well this works for ODFW! For that matter? If management with hounds is so critical? Either get our hounds back or eliminate all hunting in Oregon for good!
Mike
My first transmission with USDA head Williams in Portland Oregon over the cougar eradication program...My position? Politicians don't approve of hounds? How is it they authorize the slaughter of cougars on the backs of it's tax paying citizens with the use of Government / contractor hounds?
USDA Williams to Mike; if your questions is.... Are we to take a female cougar and her kittens should we encounter them in our equipment or have them treed over hounds then my response is; whoever is doing the administrative removal of cougars (Wildlife Services or other ODFW agents) they are to pursue cougars randomly and should they capture a female with kittens then all of them are to be euthanized by the agent.
Doesn't the word randomly sound like at random? Is this simply go kill all you can? You decide!
My second email is direct from ODFW Administrator Anglin.
Cougars killed on Damage can be kept by the landowner. Some keep them, some don't
Cougars killed in the target areas are primarily hauled to the landfills.
My third email is from Program game manager, Thomas Thornton over the missing first year baby cubs in the FOIA reports.
Me to Thornton
How can you have one hundred eighty nine second year cubs in the five year black bear report and only five first year cubs? Something is out of place? I would like to know where those first year baby cubs ended up? The report should mirror, plus or minus the second year cub report? Thank you!
Mike; as you know the first year cubs weigh so little, 10-12 pounds. ODFW has authorized the contractors and USDA to kill them and bury them in the field when accompanied by the sow caught in the snares on Western Oregon timber damage units.
So now folks, ODFW has Government sold on you and I doing these administrative removals and Salem believing it is all of us and not the Government and contractors....Every year HSUS is confused when we have our annual meeting to discuss reinstating sport hounds for this reason in our legislative sessions.
Here is another thorn in my blank....Ron Anglin to me...Mike without hounds? Sport hunters can't meet management objectives is why we authorize the snare program with no restraints!
What does this mean? Without your hounds and mine, they are sunk...So why not say it to the politicians?
I followed our local guys who are bear contractors and quite efficient in their profession. One year the reports indicated the average sow age was three years old. This is about when the sow comes of breeding age.
Over the last five years I have been building my case with Mr. Green who is the guy extracting the bear tooth and compiling the harvest data and he concurs with my analogy behind the scenes....Management or eradication. I say eradication when those first year cubs are buried like they never were born! How can this be disputed?
This legislative session in February begins with another round of sport hound hunting for cougar and these public officials need to answer the tough question with the truth....You don't like our hounds? Fine. lets just eliminate all of them along with the snares and see how well this works for ODFW! For that matter? If management with hounds is so critical? Either get our hounds back or eliminate all hunting in Oregon for good!
Mike