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Its all good houndnem, just don't think we are quite on the same page. As far as catching bobs or lion with a "coon hound", well, nevermind......
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personally i like mine cooked.....lmao!!!!! :beer Personaly i have yet to see one worth owning....
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Bplott wrote:Personaly i have yet to see one worth owning....


Must be talking about those croked tailed plotts you got...... :lol:
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Mike Leonard wrote:After raising registered black and tans for about 10 years I found I liked them best crossed with about 1/4 walker and 1/4 plott. LOL!

Seriously I had some good black and tans exceptional bear and coon dogs. Some of them are a little hame headed and the outcrosses seemed to work better on lions. One thing black and tan will put in your dogs is tough they have some bottom in them and they will test your patience as well. Probably no more beautiful hound out there than a good looking long earned black and tan.



Mike
I have to agree, with all but the 1/4 plott!!!!!!
I've hunted B&T for over 30 yrs and have been more than satisfied with most of them I have owned.
Some take abit more training than others but I find they never give up , if it aint broke I'm not going to fix it.
Have had good luck with them jaguar hunting in Central America to Leopard in Africa as well as with lynx, bobcat,bear and lion in North America...not to say I havn't seen and hunted with some amazing hounds of other breeds
In my opinion it's more of a personal preference, if you have a hound you really like you seem to put up with more than one that doesn't catch your eye from the start.
If I get to a tree and there is a critter in it with a pack of off colored hounds makin a racket that's all that metters in the end...but I still like my B&T's!!!!!
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Cold Track wrote:I hate to stir the fire, but a bawl mouth is far from a babbler. This yodeling you speak of is babbling. The long drawn out bawl is what a bawl mouth dog makes and is for sure sweet mtn. music. Much of what a lot of Black and Tans and old style Blueticks sound like.


I'm not an idiot, I know what bawlmouth is. I personally don't like it. a dog that lets a long yodley howl out about every five minutes and about every 500 yards is what I prefer. babble to me is a dog that never shuts up on the trail, box, kennel, etc. I can't stand it. They like to hear their own voice more than they like to hunt and move the track. the only thing worse to me than a babbler is a bawlmouth babbler. like I say, I love black and tans, if I ever found a fast one that was semi close mouthed on a track I'd own it in a heart beat. to each his own, that's the beutey of it!!!! if we all liked the same dogs and hunted the same game it would be pretty boreing.
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LMaO @ crock tailed plotts least they have bit and run to catch!!!!!!lol
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Yard Dog wrote:Personaly i have yet to see one worth owning....


Not even the one that smoked your plott dogs butt in Heber? : :lol:
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its not uncommen for my plotts to be shown up on coon hunt... im not a coon hunter... So there for why would i concider owning a coon hound?? when u hear "B&T" every automticly says "coonhound" :beer :lol: :P :P :P
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What was a rotweiller bred to? to get B&ts? :P :P :P :lol: :beer
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Had to have been a pit bull.... Just ask all the experts. :D
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I really like sound of those big booming long bawl mouth B&Ts. On a cold track they stretch that baby out for it seems like a minute. Then when it warms up and their bawl shortens up and hopefully it will turn into a tree chop or a warble if the critter's caught. That's the type of sound I want, but what I want and what I get are usually two different things. I got a few squawky mouthed white dogs that seem to be starting my tracks.

As far as babbling goes, I don't consider any barking where a dog gets scent babbling. It's just their style of how they run. Some dogs won't open on a track they can't jump and others will open at the faintest hint of the right critter. If a dog is barking at nothing, or other dogs, or just cause it's excited, that's babbling to me. I also like a dog to be wide open on a decent track, that way when I fry all my electronic gizmos I've still got a chance to find them.
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I've had 2 black n tans since i've been hunting with dogs. The first one was a female, not worth a dang. The other a male. I still have dang good lion dog. Has loads of energy lots of speed. I never seen a dog more determined than this one. The only flaw is he don't put enough pressure on bear to get um up a tree. I don't think color makes a dog there are good and bad in all things.
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I had a B & T he was a real nice dog, he was the best looking dog I had, And a family favorite. But he was just to slow, he did every thing else good, just to slow for me to keep feeding. Don't know about all of them but mine didn't work out.
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I was given a B@T by a coon hunter because he kept trashing on hogs. He turned out to be one of the best that I have ever carried. He wasn't the coldest nose dog that I have ever used, but he made up for it in speed and determination. He would open on a hot track with his big booming bawl mouth about every 300 yards.

When the hog was jumped, he could outrun everything without making a lose. I had him seven years and he got cancer. He bayed about 50 hogs with a tumor beside his tailhead. He got killed by a hog last January. My crew hardly ever goes hunting that you don't here "Damn, I wish we still had Flash"

He weighed about 45 lbs in hunting shape. I could nearly touch fingers to thumbs around his flanks. Every move the dog made was fluid.

He had a quirk that got to be a joke. If he was layed up for a while, then you put him on a track, he would circle back to the road and hit it running wide open. When you caught him about two miles down the road, you could take him back to the same track, put him on it, and he would go on and find the hog. Guess he just loved to run.
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I had a b&t male with big bawl on track with a nice switch to a chop at the tree that never seemed to have any problems running with or a head any dogs I hunted with (white, black, blue or brindle). He weighed about 60 lbs in running condition and ran every track to catch it. I hunted mostly bobcats and oh by the way not all of those white dogs have squeaky mouths. I had a little walker female with the nicest horn bawl you ever wanted to hear.
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