Very Entertaining and Interesting Video

[david]

I enjoyed watching the clip. The country the gear the critters are a bit different but the Huntsman energy link with his pack is no different than all the great Huntsman or true hound handlers I have watched .

This is a little painful to admit, but I have never seen anything like what I saw in this video. If I ever get to thinking I might have been a true hound handler, now I have an easy place to go to destroy such misconceptions instantly. Those dogs don't even wear a collar unless they are towing a puppy! They don't even have a name plate I.D. I wonder what brand of remote shocker and telemetry collar this particular true hound handler was using to get that kind of control over so many dogs that I cant even count them? Is it the same brand all true hound handlers use? I wonder what type of micro chip they are carrying?

Boy would I love to spend a couple years shadowing some one like that. Who are these people that dont use a collar of any type and have that kind of control over a migrating flock of dogs? And when those dogs fall in, it is where they want to be. It is a sea of wagging tails. Not one tail held low in submission.

I have always felt I had good control of my dogs, but this guy is like on Venus and I am on Mars. This is a level I did not even know could exist. Maybe I just need 40 dogs and get rid of all my name plate collars and electronics so I could see them respond to me that way?

To say I enjoyed that film would not be quite accurate, unless I admit that I enjoy being tortured. To say it haunts me might be a little more accurate. It is a remarkable film that only lets me know I have done something most of my life and know absolutely nothing about it. Who taught this guy? I am beginning to believe some of the theories about aliens from outer space.

I never thought of human beings as potential off-game, but he walked that pack through a sea of people like liquid through a sieve and not one sideways glance from any of his dogs toward a trash race. I gotta think about this for awhile.

[david]

Does anyone know anything about those dogs? Are they still around? How were they bred? Are they Walkers? I just figured it out. If I just had that bloodline, I could do all that too. Looks like they could even catch something once in a while. They look an awful lot like Clay hounds...hmmm
I gotta think about this for awhile.

[henpeck]

David I'm with you, I didn't elaborate on the video. But that was something else to see. Really ...... And I too would like to know and learn about the bloodline and breeding behind them and the Clay's hounds...


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[Budd Denny]

Wow...I watched the whole darn thing and will several more times!!!! Great huntsmen and that's the way hounds should handle. I slack on the different horn calls but do use the return and game seen call when hounds are in a hard check. Great clip!!! Nelson Cole first showed me how a hound should handle and I carried this over to the beagles, many times I have came away from a cat or bear tree with 6-8 hound without a leash, same with the beagles, NEVER carry a leash with the beagles.
Not saying I am nearly the houndsmen as this gent but like him I do like well mannered hounds, it is a must to be in my kennel and I also cheat and use electronics. Here is a short clip of Norwester's and my pack at the end of a hunt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGYTK1wJ ... e=youtu.be

[Dads dogboy]

Cowboyvon,

The Hardoway I was referring was Mr. Ben Hardaway from Columbus, GA. He developed the Hardaway Crossbred Fox Hound. But in reality these are Coyote Hounds. They are a Cross of English Fox Hound, American July with a small amount of Penn-Marydel Hound added for Bid ability!

Mr. Ben is a friend of Mr. Dutch Salmon as he has used Lurchers running with the Pack to aid in catching Yotes. Tony Leahy is the BEST of Mr. Ben's disciples and has the Fox River Valley Hounds and hunt in NW IL. Tony also maintains a place in GA and keeps the Hounds in shape there in the winter. I have posted a clip of Tony and Ashley Hubbard out with 90+ Hounds for Exercise a couple of summers ago! I will try to find it and repost it along with Tony taking the hounds in for feeding and saying three words and the Females separated from the Males. It TRULY amazing the handles these Huntsmen have over their Hounds!

David these Hounds in the video are the "Orange County" Hunt's Hounds in VA. Mr. Poe was Huntsman for many years. They are a Line of American Fox Hounds and have been bred PURE, meaning Line Bred for much longer than Dad has hunted....now that is a long time.

As far as I know, none of the "Red Coated" Huntsmen use Shocking collars. They use the whips early in the "Walks Out" with the Hounds when they are Pups to instill the discipline and respect that you see on the video. If a "Riot", trash race for us Plebians occurs the Whippers Ins ride to the Hounds and either knock the Hounds off the trash or shoot them with 22 Pistols loaded with rat shot. A much different method than ours but a Time Proven method for this Genre.

Several of the Hunts have gone to GPS collars to make up for there being fewer and fewer good Whippers In.

While some Hunts only CHASE the Fox or Yote for fun, Several including Tony's, Mr. Hardaway's (his Son in Law now runs it) and the Orange Co. fully intend to Catch or Hole their Game! Not always successful.....but then who is!

For more good info and another Great Clip, including one demonstrating the different Calls of the Horn go to http://www.mfha.com this is the Home Page for the Master Fox Hunting Association. A group who spends Millions of Dollars each year all across the Country fighting the Antis, so all of us can enjoy what we love so much!

A Must read for any Houndsman is Mr. Hardaway's "Never Outfoxed". Google it or contact http://www.highlonesomebooks.com to get a copy.

[al baldwin]

Very interesting, those dogs must have been bred to be natural pack dogs. Sure not the type of terrain I lived in as a kid in Va. Couplers reminded me of the way my mentors controlled their packs, must say did not have the same results at times. Could be a real challenge when hounds got away coupled, then got hung up in this brush. Been years since I used a leash when hunting, but we now have leashes with two mile range. Budd where did you get the horn? I do recall seeing hounds that looked similar to those in Va. Al

[Budd Denny]

Al, got mine off ebay . Non-reeded of course.

[Dads dogboy]

The English Style blowing Horns without the reed can be tough for some Folks to blow.

The Horns with reeds are easier to blow but the sound does not carry as far, also the reed will freeze in COLD weather.

The Cow Horns that Mr. Don makes are usually easier to blow and with most the Sound will carry farther than the English Style.

We have our Hounds broke to the Horn either Truck, Blowing, or a Hollar which replicates the sounds from the Horns.

It is something to see how the Red Coated Huntsman communicates with his Hounds with his Voice, Horn or Whip.

Glad you all are enjoying this Video and hope you watched the clips from the MFHA website on "Introduction to Fox Hunting".

[Alabama Cathunter]

Thanks kerry for the post. Outstanding!

[dwalton]

As Mike said the handling of the hounds was great. I enjoyed watching the handling of the hounds for those of you out here that lead your dogs out of the woods or only can handle 2 or 3 at a time, watch this again it didn't look that hard to handle 15 or 20 hounds and never get off of a horse. Dewey