COLD NOSE???

[African]

No, I don't remember reading that in this paper.

[liontracker]

I'll see if I can find it. I was going to follow up and see what the author found that had a better nose.

[houndcrzy]

I think what he's wondering, and so am I is, Are majestics a feesible breed choice to use on Lions? Does anybody use them on cats? Or know of anyone who does? Whats the scoop on them? I know there known for a colder nose but how do they measure up in other areas?

[Lynxhunter]

Dont know, but I've heard some rumors about a couple of guys up in B.C. beeing pretty suksessful on cats with Majestic's.....

To the other questions on this post:
My beagle(sorry for bringing in a running hound here), will change from hot nosed to what I call, cold nosed several times during a hunting season. The reason for this is that I'm sometimes hired in by hunting teames to hunt deer with this hound. They want to have action seconds after he is released. So they go looking for fresh tracks, so I can put him straight on them. Couple of days of this and he will not even put his nose in a 6 hour track.
I love cold trailing, so when I'm hunting alone I want him to take on a old track.
-Especially when I'm redfox hunting. So then I have to make him take on a couple of tracks, I know is cold, and then hes back where I want him again.

I agree with those saying that different breeds have different abilities to take on a cold track, but my opinion is that hounds should know what you want. They should have the brains to understand that if you want them to take on a cold track(and they have the abilities), they should do that! - And on the other hand: If you want them to only take on hot tracks, they should do that!

Hans

[pete richardson]

that paper could give ya a headache

what language is that anyway ????


it has some very good points in it -at least the parts i can understand-

-it sounds so much more official with all the million dollar words -

i think we have a scientist here that has experience with hounds-





i would enjoy reading it alot more---if mike leonard , or anybody on this forum wrote it


i will try to read this whole thing and translate it to myself --but not all of it this morning



Early availability of olfactory discriminating experiences accompanies greater olfactory neural organization within the hound’s sensory system. The fetal and newborn brain starts out with an overproduction of sensory perceptually related neurons that subsequently decline. During development, approximately two thirds of nerve cells (neurons) in the brain atrophy and die that have failed to connect with their neighbors through neural activity. There is considerable developmental evidence that experience plays a critical role in determining which emergent groupings of neurons will survive to form the neural architecture (Doubell,

- starting pups early is important .. doesnt have to mean hunting --

play some games with them- even when they are too young to hunt-

ive learned this the hard way, too many times---

pups can go brain dead , waiting for hunting season to open-

anything you can do with pups pays off big later-



this is why some people can "make" a hound -- they have a high percentage turn out -

[Mike Leonard]

This is SOOOOO true. You leave those pups setting in a pen and the only thing they smell is the food bowl after Mom is gone or a pile of poop they are not getting my exposure to those connectors.

Get them out experiencing new smells, and games and then start the trailing game. This is why the method I detailed in the cat section is so effective. You can make it as easy or a tuff as you want and it can be done anyplace from your back yard to start with to the mountains.

I start them all very young with these brain teasers games, hide and seek, and it really does seem to connect the nose to the brain in a better fashion.

Let me tell you some of the greatest cold trailing, and track moving hounds I have ever seen were pups that were raised out in the hills and were allowed to run loose a good bit and trail rabits and such at a young age.

When my Josie and Wyatt dogs were babies I lived out in a camp house and I backed right up to thousands of acres of BLM land. Their mother would take them off and you could hear them little buggers trailing cotton tails, and before long they got lucky down byt the canal and trailed up a young coon, and the next thing you know they were baying and treeing feral housecats around the hay fields.Yes later when I really got them down to serious cat hunting they had to be cleaned up a little but not bad. When the two of them at 11 months trailed down a yearling bear and bayed it up tight by themselves in a little wash out I figured it was probably time to pen them up. But they were just hunting trailing little buggers and they were that way their whole life. Old Josie finally died last year and a week before she died she got out of her kennel climbed a five foot fence and went off and treed a wild cat, she literally lived to hunt.