Bill Green's breeding advisor

Bow · Post by **Bow** » Tue May 04, 2010 4:01 pm

thank you for the photo he is not the man in the photo that i have

Majestic Tree Hound · Post by **Majestic Tree Hound** » Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:24 am

The "Scout" & "Frosty" Movie !!!! lol

Frosty is just turning 1 year old So he just doesn't have the Features of "Old Scout" Yet ..

But I believe when he Finishes out they will be built very simular ..

( Frostys Voice is Squeeky Cuz I have 2 females in heat,, So He has this Whiney Voice at the Moment )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOL_edXVCL8

Bow · Post by **Bow** » Sun May 04, 2014 6:38 pm

Re: Bill Green's breeding advisor

Postby Majestic Tree Hound » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:34 pm
Just another Story thats kinda Interesting was this Interview with Dale Lee about Bill Green..

In the Artical it keeps mentioning a "Movie" that was made in South American in which Bill (16-17 years old !! ) was their and this was Prior to Bill Hiring the Lee's and Prior to the Lee's heading to South America to hunt Jag.s ..

Now I have another Artical which Suggest that Bill Returned to South America to Hunt Jags With 4 of His Hounds and After the Lee's 22 Hound Pack was nearly Whiped out by Jags..

Now this is where "I Think" Bill had his Exposure to the French Hounds was in the Hunting Group that were making the "Jag Movie"
I this Photo these Hounds are French Tri Color Hounds !! Not Running Walkers and Not Treeing Walkers !! I have Enlarged the Profile of these Hounds Heads and Compaired them to the French Tri's .. Under the Spotted Cat is a Redticked Hound ??

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Now The Bigest Question I Have that will better Prove Bill's Exposure to the French Hounds would Be "The Movie" ... But I Believe the Movie is Somewhere in Europe in some Fancy Hunt Lodge !!! I have Searched the Internet for over a Year for some Glimps of It .... It could be in German, French, Belgem Or in the English in the UK !!!

The Artical ..

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SO the Other Question is Did Bill Buy a GGS From the Fokes Making the "Movie" in South America and Bring it Home with Him when he Returned !! ???

WHERE's THE DAMM MOVIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE THE MOVIE.

driftwood blue · Post by **driftwood blue** » Mon May 05, 2014 10:02 am

what happened to the images? hope to see them!
all that shows is"image" no pictures.

kiwi · Post by **kiwi** » Fri May 09, 2014 3:00 am

This has been great to look through. love looking at the history of hounds and photos of the old days. Thanks for sharing the memories and photos. Jaguar hunting in the Matto Grosso and Bolivia is good reading , I think you'll enjoy it , John
Cheers Kiwi

Jimmy Lee · Post by **Jimmy Lee** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:04 pm

As I said before bill greens hounds were not French not even close.this is a little late but I want to set the record straight.Lee and Fred newhart are ones to talk to about bill.Rex moyle kept some hounds of bills because he said bill owed him money for a horse.bill mason had the last half dozen hounds of bill greens one was scout he was kill by a bear out east.leon Whitney was a friend of bills and it was his bloodhounds that went into the green stock and made them what they were.

Jimmy Lee · Post by **Jimmy Lee** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:04 pm

As I said before bill greens hounds were not French not even close.this is a little late but I want to set the record straight.Lee and Fred newhart are ones to talk to about bill.Rex moyle kept some hounds of bills because he said bill owed him money for a horse.bill mason had the last half dozen hounds of bill greens one was scout he was kill by a bear out east.leon Whitney was a friend of bills and it was his bloodhounds that went into the green stock and made them what they were.

david · Post by **david** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:21 pm

The first hound book I ever read back in the late seventies, if my memory serves me, was written by Leon Whitney DVM. "The coon hunters hand book". I still had it until a few months ago when I gave it to another young coon hunter. The first book I ever read on dog breeding was also written by Leon Whitney DVM. That was in the early eighties: "Breeding Better Dogs". Both were excellent I thought, and both influenced me. I can still tell you some things I learned from those books. They both were full of his own personal experiences over a life time of being passionate about dogs and breeding. Most of his personal examples in the breeding book had to do with breeding hounds, as I remember.

I am glad Mr. Leon Whitney is getting some credit here. It sounds like without him, we might never have heard of Bill Green.

It sure makes me curious about those bloodhounds he raised. Is there as much variation in the bloodhound breed as there is in the walker breed? Very curious about the traits Mr Whitney was breeding for.

Thanks to all for a very interesting thread. Some of you have put many hours into making it. It really is a cold case detective mystery novel with a surprise ending.

david · Post by **david** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:15 pm

By the way, I would recommend Leon Whitney's breeding book to anyone that can find it.

Do you know how to palpate your female to find out if the breeding took hold? He will tell you how to do it yourself. Do you know how to produce more females than males in a breeding, and vice versa? He will tell you how, and I will testify that it works! Need a design for the perfect welping box? He will show you how to make it. He was a master and a good teacher. He gave us a lot, and maybe more than we know.

Who knew Mike gave this thread the perfect name: "Bill Green's Breeding Advisor": Leon Whitney.

JTG · Post by **JTG** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:28 am

Yes, Bloodhounds.

Jimmy Lee wrote:As I said before bill greens hounds were not French not even close.this is a little late but I want to set the record straight.Lee and Fred newhart are ones to talk to about bill.Rex moyle kept some hounds of bills because he said bill owed him money for a horse.bill mason had the last half dozen hounds of bill greens one was scout he was kill by a bear out east.leon Whitney was a friend of bills and it was his bloodhounds that went into the green stock and made them what they were.

JTG · Post by **JTG** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:27 am

The bloodhounds came from Texas prison dogs, I am not sure if the person that you mention got his from there?
I also know some of them were crossed with Blueticks and Black and Tans. I know of a man that had some and made great coon dogs, the only problem is they would jump just about any fence. It's funny but a few years ago, I received a picture of a long time big blue tick breeder named Bob M, with one of his big blues jumping a high fence. The funny thing is the man, I know of had to tie a piece of rebar made into a big hook tied to his hounds collar so when he jumped the fence he would hang and hopefully learn not to jump the fence. I just heard of the hound from his sons, as it must have been forty or more years ago as his sons are in their sixty's.

Big N' Blue · Post by **Big N' Blue** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:09 pm

JTG, out of curiosity, was the Prison dog man Named Capt. Willis?

JTG · Post by **JTG** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:25 pm

It was many years ago and I do not remember any of the names, I still talk to one of the two sons, but he was the brother that did not like to go. His dad love hounds and he was very well off,as he was high up in the Hutson Bay Corporation and I worked for him as a young kid. Back then the coons were scarce and had a good price on their heads, but he never sold a coon. He would trade them for Barbeque sandwiches and we would eat, laugh and talk about the hounds and the hunt.
These were big hounds and he kept them all in a big kennel and all of them were very good as this guy would not put up with much. The sad thing is after his death, that blood line scattered like the wind after he spent a lifetime breeding them. He was a perfect example of a great houndsmen that no one ever heard of and that was just fine with him.
A few years ago my good friend, offered me a hound that came from Harry O Smith and it reminded me of those hounds.

Jimmy Lee · Post by **Jimmy Lee** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:03 pm

Yes bloodhounds at one time came in all colors .Whitney had the white color ones.even brindle which they still do.

Jimmy Lee · Post by **Jimmy Lee** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:02 am

Leon Whitney did hunt and bred many hunting dogs and hounds.so why try to give credit to the French hounds.