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Re: Decline of the bluetick hound.
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:53 am
by pegleg
I don't buy lots of hounds and even less papered ones. but of the blueticks I've hunted with or owned there where a couple things that caused me problems. first when I do get pups I try to get no less then two and often more from a line so I have a better understanding of what is really coming out of that breeding.
I have seen those big blues coming out that don't have the drive to trail like we expect them to. I believe they have the ability but they don't use it as frequently as in the past. that is a huge fault. the other faults I've run into more often then you should is lack of bottom and tree happy dogs. I know there are still hounds out there that are good representatives of what we expect of the blue dogs but x breeding has weakened all the breeds by loosing those animals worth breeding. but each breed has it's popularity and quality swing up and down through time. just to stir the pot I think right now out of the purebreds the english our the most consistently well balanced hounds from their top lines.

Re: Decline of the bluetick hound.
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:15 am
by mnb&t
liontracker wrote:mnb&t wrote:whatever happened to those big retarded french dogs that were gonna "revolutionize" cold trailing and when crossed put a better "nose" on hounds.

Dude...what's up with that? Wake up on the wrong side of the bed or what? Go ahead and "laugh out loud" under the guise of "humor" all you want, just remember that he who laugh's last... laugh's loudest, and I WILL have the last laugh on this one.
To answer your question, they are doing exactly that. They are finally getting into the hands of people with the experience and expertice to pass judgement on them, like Gods themselves, to the hounddog world. So, if this arena was not such a "secret society", then you and everyone else that hunts and pecks on a keyboard would be in the know. Meanwhile, word of mouth is spreading amongst outfitters and serious men who are hunting them...and that word is...and I quote from an outfitter who has caught more dryground lions than most will ever see..."that people should start paying attention, as they are filthy cold, track driving machines".
You frickin' ehh I am sick of being attacked on here.....now go change your tampon!LOL
P.S. - Thanks for trashing this post....
nope woke up fine just tired from hunting. LOL. dont know any gods or experts of the hounddog world but hope they do good. remembered reading bout them quite sometime ago and then nothing recently. pretty sure i didnt trash this post and dont peck on here 24/7! happy hunting, matt.
ps, pretty immature talking about tampons on here sir!
Re: Decline of the bluetick hound.
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:17 am
by mnb&t
Oldmanindeepsnow wrote:Alright guys heres my last post on this subject.
To say the bluetick od declineing is a slap in the face to every breeder that has put 20 to 30 years into there dogs.
If it snows in utah on friday we stay home on saturday You cant swing a dead cat without hitting a hound box. It gets crowded. But if you wait till the sidehills melt off there is only a few of us out there.
The coldest nose will not catch game if it is not developed and the dog is not given the chance and confdence to get it done.
As for the dog that has to have a ten minute coon track to hunt will not eat food at my kennel. Im not going to get into genectics that is another can of worms and genes are funny critters.
very well said! happy hunting!
Re: Decline of the bluetick hound.
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:33 am
by houndnem
every dryground dog Ive ever seen down here in so. utah is at least half bluetick. haven't noticed a decline at all. unless we're talkin camerons, I think the b-tic still has it. I'de hate to see a colder nose than my bluetic "thunder" dog. if he ever gets his brains to keep up with his nose you better watch out! I think the best dry ground dog you can breed would be walker/ bluetic cross. jmo.
Re: Decline of the bluetick hound.
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 11:42 am
by liontracker
mnb&t...read your quote. You tried to stir up trouble and you dam well know it.
Re: Decline of the bluetick hound.
Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 8:23 pm
by Dan V

Here is a bluetick that did not get the memo (blue tick by color, not registered).
He was born at Mike Leonard's house and is out of two dog's he owned. We would not have caught this beef eater if it was not for this dog and his offspring that were with us that day.
Re: Decline of the bluetick hound.
Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 2:48 am
by Lost River
Great pic Dan!
Re: Decline of the bluetick hound.
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 4:25 pm
by Here Kitty Kitty

Just thought I would show you guys my bluetick female. Yes she is a big, hardheaded, swaybacked winch. But one of the hardest hunting dogs I have. It don't matter if its 10 degress or 100 she will give you everything. I only hunt horseback and never much moisture. We may not catch a ton like alot of you but we sure have fun trying. Wish I had another like her. She was a yearling when I got her and never hunted. They said she was Sugar Creek bred.
Dan I wonder how your dog is related to Mikes dog Blue? Maybe littermates. Those are some hunting machines. Cool picture. Take care. Missy
Re: Decline of the bluetick hound.
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:16 pm
by Mike Leonard
Yes Missy Tuck is Blue's littermate and also a k=littermate to Benny G's Baldy dog and Chris Todd's Misty dog. All born right here in the dog barn. LOL!
Re: Decline of the bluetick hound.
Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 12:12 am
by Dan V
Missy,
That's a nice picture, I love those determined dogs. They seem to be the ones that get the job done.
Dan
Re: Decline of the bluetick hound.
Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 3:03 am
by Orion Guide
I'll take any dog that can hunt, I love my blues, but I breed for the nose no matter the color, But I'm just simple like that I guess!!!
Re: Decline of the bluetick hound.
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:24 pm
by bluedog4
Houndem whats with the comment about Cameron Hounds? (unless we're talkin camerons,)
Re: Decline of the bluetick hound.
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:13 am
by houndnem
bluedog4 wrote:Houndem whats with the comment about Cameron Hounds? (unless we're talkin camerons,)
well, it's just my opinion. I've been around alot of those big good lookin high dollar cameron dogs. have yet to see one that was worth a sh%t. that don't mean that they don't exist. I think there are quite a few people that share this opinion with me.
obviousely to get as popular and sought after as they are they had to start out being the cats meow. but since me and alot of people have never seen one that could get er done and we are talking decline. I would say they are one of the b-tic strains that have declined. it don't mean that it's true, it's just my opinion. you or several guys on here probably have camerons that could spank my little pack of butt lickers but it was a generalization based on what I have seen and heard. hope It didn't offend you, jared.
Re: Decline of the bluetick hound.
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:56 am
by ferjr
I have two Cameron pups that are really turning it on, they just turned a year old, they are big hounds, and already have the stamina that my older dogs have and will flat out run them as well. They also have probably the coldest nose out of all of my hounds. They are naturals, both already rig and strike. Last sunday my pup Jake led the race for over 7 miles and his average speed on the Garmin was 6.58mph., in the thick, steep mountains. I cant imagine how good they were before the decline.

Re: Decline of the bluetick hound.
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:23 am
by Orion Guide
houndnem wrote:bluedog4 wrote:Houndem whats with the comment about Cameron Hounds? (unless we're talkin camerons,)
well, it's just my opinion. I've been around alot of those big good lookin high dollar cameron dogs. have yet to see one that was worth a sh%t. that don't mean that they don't exist. I think there are quite a few people that share this opinion with me.
obviousely to get as popular and sought after as they are they had to start out being the cats meow. but since me and alot of people have never seen one that could get er done and we are talking decline. I would say they are one of the b-tic strains that have declined. it don't mean that it's true, it's just my opinion. you or several guys on here probably have camerons that could spank my little pack of butt lickers but it was a generalization based on what I have seen and heard. hope It didn't offend you, jared.
Sometimes its just the name that sales, I lost my dogs 15 years ago and the last couple years have gotten back into it, But i knew my line because i bred them to my line only. There a good dog born in every litter, just gotta narrow down which one it is!!